What is better than Milk Thistle

jim bob · Sep 14, 2007

12 weeks ago I finished a cycle of 750 mg test, 400mg deca and 60 E/D of anavar. Lab results are back and AST and ALT are sightly high, even with taking 1000mg E/D of Milk Thistle split equally twice a day. Question, is there any thing better than Milk Thistle for Liver function? Also serum Creatinine, which has to do with kidney function, was sightly elevated. What can be taken to help Kidney function as well. Any help will be appreciated.

jayuk · Sep 14, 2007

If you cant afford the more cutting edge stuff and have limited budget, try and always take MT at 2g per day and NAC at 600-1.2g per day......due to the pathways that this works in relation to renal functioning....it provides an
excellent "mini stack" to look afer you..

Jayuk

Big A · Sep 14, 2007

jim bob said:
12 weeks ago I finished a cycle of 750 mg test, 400mg deca and 60 E/D of anavar. Lab results are back and AST and ALT are sightly high, even with taking 1000mg E/D of Milk Thistle split equally twice a day. Question, is there any thing better than Milk Thistle for Liver function? Also serum Creatinine, which has to do with kidney function, was sightly elevated. What can be taken to help Kidney function as well. Any help will be appreciated.

Why don't you use the Search button? In the last week alone there have been multiple threads about this very subject.

Do a Search for Synthergine and see what you get.

musclehead33 · Sep 14, 2007

i also like liv-52 tabs double strength gave me a killer appetite for some reason also.peace

Frank N. Steroid · Sep 14, 2007

Yes,Liv-52 is very good.Don't use milk thistle though as it decreases protein synthesis which is something you definately don't want to have happen.

coolkat · Sep 14, 2007

Why does it do that ?

Ashop · Sep 14, 2007

jim bob said:
12 weeks ago I finished a cycle of 750 mg test, 400mg deca and 60 E/D of anavar. Lab results are back and AST and ALT are sightly high, even with taking 1000mg E/D of Milk Thistle split equally twice a day. Question, is there any thing better than Milk Thistle for Liver function? Also serum Creatinine, which has to do with kidney function, was sightly elevated. What can be taken to help Kidney function as well. Any help will be appreciated.

check out the Synthergine. Very good product for liver health.

KillerStack · Sep 15, 2007

Frank N. Steroid said:
Yes,Liv-52 is very good.Don't use milk thistle though as it decreases protein synthesis which is something you definately don't want to have happen.

Nah, I don't think so. There was some research showing it blocked the AR or something but in the real world this effect is not measurable.

thedonker · Sep 15, 2007

i have my dad on liv 52 and uricinex which has silimarin (milk thistle) he is enjoying the benefits, no gout, and he can drink when he wants to.

oldfella · Sep 15, 2007

Synthergine!!! Nothing else.

thedonker · Sep 15, 2007

oldfella said:
Synthergine!!! Nothing else.

just how good is it, I have been chatting with my dad this morning regarding taking liv 52 and uricinex of which he is happy with the results, would you think that it would be more beneficial to be using SYnthergine, is it so superior? and why is it if it is. Bacially it is twice the price of the other 2 here in the UK for one reason, and apart from regular blood work which my oldman would run a mile at the thought of, he is only looking after his liver and kidneys on my recomendation to reduce and prevent acute gout, and so he hangs around a little longer of course ;-)

imput appreciated

MASSIVE1000 · Sep 15, 2007

I prefer IP's Livercure.

Big A · Sep 15, 2007

thedonker said:
just how good is it, I have been chatting with my dad this morning regarding taking liv 52 and uricinex of which he is happy with the results, would you think that it would be more beneficial to be using SYnthergine, is it so superior? and why is it if it is. Bacially it is twice the price of the other 2 here in the UK for one reason, and apart from regular blood work which my oldman would run a mile at the thought of, he is only looking after his liver and kidneys on my recomendation to reduce and prevent acute gout, and so he hangs around a little longer of course ;-)

imput appreciated

Use the Search button.

thedonker · Sep 15, 2007

Big A said:
Use the Search button.

used the search button read the threads, it seems that many people have voted it hands down the best liver protectant.

From a technical perspective why is it more effective? or have there been any studies using it? with before and after results ? I basically would like to learn some more about it

maybe I missed the thread where this is explained?

Big A · Sep 16, 2007

thedonker said:
maybe I missed the thread where this is explained?

Yes you did. A few threads actually.

Do a search on google, etc, for each individual ingredient in Synthergine. Some of them are what are used in hospitals to treat liver conditions and all have medical backing.

mars1960 · Sep 16, 2007

Big A said:
Yes you did. A few threads actually.

Do a search on google, etc, for each individual ingredient in Synthergine. Some of them are what are used in hospitals to treat liver conditions and all have medical backing.

Thanks big A, just did.
The 3 hydrochlorides are basically amino acids.
The sodium g is salt made from the fermentation of glucose.
And the di-iso is pangamic acid, or simply vit B15.

Frank N. Steroid · Sep 16, 2007

KillerStack said:
Nah, I don't think so. There was some research showing it blocked the AR or something but in the real world this effect is not measurable.

Oh right,I get it.You must be more knowledgeable than William Llywelyn then who says that milk thistle decreases protein synthesis.

Hey guys,don't listen to WL anymore,just listen to Killer Stack instead,he's obviously more knowledgeable than Bill,that's why he's got lots of books out on the subject and KS has got none.Alrighty then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KillerStack · Sep 16, 2007

Frank N. Steroid said:
Oh right,I get it.You must be more knowledgeable than William Llywelyn then who says that milk thistle decreases protein synthesis.

Hey guys,don't listen to WL anymore,just listen to Killer Stack instead,he's obviously more knowledgeable than Bill,that's why he's got lots of books out on the subject and KS has got none.Alrighty then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't have Bill's books so I don't know what he said precisely. Though I would be VERY surprised if he said it as if it were fact. He may have speculated though.

Can you link to where he talks about it or type the part if it's out of his book?

Thanks.

LEX · Sep 16, 2007

Frank N. Steroid said:
Oh right,I get it.You must be more knowledgeable than William Llywelyn then who says that milk thistle decreases protein synthesis.

Hey guys,don't listen to WL anymore,just listen to Killer Stack instead,he's obviously more knowledgeable than Bill,that's why he's got lots of books out on the subject and KS has got none.Alrighty then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!