When the going gets tough.....

[klowndog]

I already know that this is not a sport for the weak. This is not a whining session, just a question that I have searched for an answer, can't find a good one.

I am on my second week of sus-a-ton 250, at 1ml E5D, and I swear this shit is like thunder in a bottle! At this point, I've hit both butt cheeks and both quads, so I'm basically a sitting duck literally! I looked at my ass cheek in the mirror, and thought it was J-Lo for a second. I have been running a 100 - 101 fever for the last two weeks (since first shot). With a fever, I can't eat worth a fuck, and I damn sure can't workout since my knees buckle just trying to stand up. Seems like a waste. But I am tough.

My question is, when a muscle gets inflamed/irritated and swollen, is there any remedy other than just allowing it to rest and heal, or should I ice it, or put heat on it? Should I massage it? Should I do cardio to pump the fresh blood through there and "rinse out the muscle"? It seems to me that when the muscles are all agitated that the best thing is just to leave it the fuck alone. I tried extreme stretching/massage, etc. just seems like I'm spinning my wheels here.

 

[pesty4077]

I already know that this is not a sport for the weak. This is not a whining session, just a question that I have searched for an answer, can't find a good one.

I am on my second week of sus-a-ton 250, at 1ml E5D, and I swear this shit is like thunder in a bottle! At this point, I've hit both butt cheeks and both quads, so I'm basically a sitting duck literally! I looked at my ass cheek in the mirror, and thought it was J-Lo for a second. I have been running a 100 - 101 fever for the last two weeks (since first shot). With a fever, I can't eat worth a fuck, and I damn sure can't workout since my knees buckle just trying to stand up. Seems like a waste. But I am tough.

My question is, when a muscle gets inflamed/irritated and swollen, is there any remedy other than just allowing it to rest and heal, or should I ice it, or put heat on it? Should I massage it? Should I do cardio to pump the fresh blood through there and "rinse out the muscle"? It seems to me that when the muscles are all agitated that the best thing is just to leave it the fuck alone. I tried extreme stretching/massage, etc. just seems like I'm spinning my wheels here.

It happen to me too, only time will make it go down, up to a week. Next time try shooting something with it, like deca, it will eliminate the problem. It worked for me.

 

[Muay Thai]

sounds like sterilitiy or ba issue rather than sore muscle! if u runnin a fever and its hot and red u got an infection cellulitus or abscess

 

[klowndog]

sounds like sterilitiy or ba issue rather than sore muscle! if u runnin a fever and its hot and red u got an infection cellulitus or abscess

None of the above bro. The fever is caused by the body rejecting a foreign substance in the bloodstream (like the flu, but no runny nose/etc.) Takes a while for it to accept it and get used to it.

Read my first post. I don't need a diagnosis, just wanting to know if there is a method to easing the pain, or if it just need good old fashioned time to heal.

e.i., does stretching the muscle help you? does massaging help you recover quicker?

 

[nartic]

Test has never giving me those problems thank God.

 

[klowndog]

Test has never giving me those problems thank God.

Man, that helps!

 

[smootheavy]

my buddy gets the sust flu everytime. it is common, but two weeks is pushing it as far as the fever goes and what not, he usually feels like shit for about a week but the flu like symptoms only last a few days at best.

try epsome salt baths and contrast showers

 

[klowndog]

Think I will try some epsom tonight. Thought about that yesterday, but didnt.

 

[njpooldude]

I looked at my ass cheek in the mirror, and thought it was J-Lo for a second. .

HAHAHAH!! almost spit out my coffee readin that one

happened to me with test e from a sachet... i used a "stick on" heat pad from the drug store for a few days and really hot showers.... felt better but didnt heal it.

i think its just one of those "only time will heal" things

Try to heat up the gear with hot water before u inject... helped me BIG time

 

[smootheavy]

Think I will try some epsom tonight. Thought about that yesterday, but didnt.

try epsome salt bath EOD for 20 minutes or so and on the other days try hot (not super hot) and cool/cold (not freezing cold) contrast showers at 1 minute warm and one minute cold for about 10 minutes straight...

do this for a week and see how you feel

 

[klowndog]

Thanks bro! Will do. Tonight. After I vote that is!

 

[smootheavy]

Thanks bro! Will do. Tonight. After I vote that is!

my man

 

[full_belly]

test flu

i get it every time from prop.. lasts a few weeks... last week did 100mg ed for 5 days and couldn even train or eat.. ive heard rumour it may be due to the ester shearing off in the muscle causing inflamation and an immune response... i really dunno, but itys shit cos otherwise prop is great for me once i get past the flu..

 

[mad mardigan]

Taking benadryl before or immediately after a shot will supposedly reduce flu-like symptoms quite a bit.

 

[street]

I have heard aspirin or iboprufin helps with the symptoms

 

[RINO]

Aspirin or ibuprofen after your shot and for a day after works very well for me. I get it every time.

 

[zephyr22]

Ok here it is...

It is probably not a sterility issue but more of a steroid solubility issue. That is a lot of testosterone in one injection. Now, the body sees it as foreign and of course sends out a inflammatorie response sending macrofages, and other infamatorie markers to the site. Thus causing inflamation at the site. I can attest to this myself. I used T-400 and injected 2ml into each glute while in Mexico quite a few years ago. My ass swelled so much I could only wear sweats for like 3 days. Walking in itself was pure hell. A good antinflamatorie drug is the key. Ibuprofen at 800mg three times a day for 5 days. Now the key is splitting up the injections over more muscle groups with less volume of the drug. Or useing deca or eq to "water it down" with. And agian less crystals in each muscle will cause less immune response at each site. I work in medicine and can attest that bodybuilders are quick to call abcess right of the bat. The thing is most of the time it is probably due to high amount of steroid in a low amount of oil, or too much benzyl alcohol, ob benzyl benzoate or some other chemical being used as a solubilizer in the oil. So, try splitting up sites and or dilluting it. Let me know how it goes.

 

[Massive G]

Test flu's never go away or get used to. It is an inflammatory (immune)response to a couple of things mentioned Z22's post, the soluability of the powder-and how it crystallizes at the depot (spot of injection), as well as the higher levels of solvents, additionally purity of powders and endotoxins as well can influence the flu with any drug compound just not testosterones. Your Oil may be sterile but not "clean".
Dilution, baking and refiltering often help greatly in reducing the flu and pain and swelling and sweats.

 

[zephyr22]

So very true massive-G

If anything the body will increase in its sensitivity to these injections. Thus setting up a bad situation down the road. If it were me try the above mentioned techniques. Always, remember you cant train if your sick. No amount of the drug being given can change the fact you wont be able to train, and or eat properly. JMHO

 

[klowndog]

Just what I was looking for

Thanks for the answers guys. I'm looking into grapeseed oil. Meanwhile, I am feeling better today.