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Maybe it's just me, but wouldn't it be great if a photo or video accompanied
a members post when they are making claims, casual or serious, about
their current or past condition? Don't you think that would help substantiate
or verify a claim or a statement they are making?

I just think that it adds another level of legitimacy to a persons statements,
and I for one would will feel a little bit more inclined to believe them. Maybe
I'm just too naive, or too skeptical, or I take things too seriously.

You don't see it here very much thankfully (I don't know how prevalent it is
on other boards) but when a member posts something on the order of
". . . I weigh 220 at 5'9'' and my arms are 19" cold at 10% bf and I am
running bla bla bla . . .", doesn't that just beg for a photo? It does in my
book. Or "I just squatted 505 for reps" Show me a video. I admire the
members that do do this, but they are few and far between.

And while I believe that some do not need to do this (though some still do,
thank you), as they have been there done that; their contest history and
prior posts have given these members legitimacy, it's still non the less helpful
to see the muscles that are so often referred to.

With accesses to digital cameras / phones and video recording devises
being the norm now a days, I just can't see a good reason not to post up
proof of your claims. They don't have to be great quality photos, rarely do
you see criticism regarding quality (hey, at least they are making an effort),
but I think there is a need to do something. It's the internet ya know, where
anybody and everybody can bench press 500 lbs and has an 18" arm.

I can also understand the desire for anonymity, but just crop the photo or
put on a mask. How tough can that be? Easy peasy.

And I guess one could always be deceitful; steal a photo or post a photo
of another person while claiming it's you, but what's the use in that? It
only gets you in trouble down the road if you live long enough.

Then again, perhaps, some members just don't care if other people believe
them. Fair enough. That's always an option. But please keep this in mind,
there are few places in this world besides the internet where advice is so
feely, so openly, so widely given and taken, with little or no consideration of,
or, the burden of proof. Isn't anonymity a beautiful thing?

So, I'm as guilty as the next person when it comes to doing this. And though my
best years are clearly well behind me and with much regret I don't have any
photos to show what I looked like when I make certain claims, I try, when ever
possible, to put up photos to help illustrate my point, to hopefully add legitimacy
to my posts.

I'm trying not to step on any toes or point any fingers, but how does
everybody feel about this?

Or is it just me?

And by the way, I'll say it again . . . kudos to all the members that do,
show us the money.
 
I second that

on a side note i have a photo or a video to back up everything i say if youre ever in doubt just ask :)
 
Alfresco:

I sometimes think its the opposite of that old adage "The camera adds 10 lbs". I think the internet may add 20 lbs. and two inches.:D When I get pm'ed with someone asking my stats etc I usually respond back "On the internet or in real life?".

Also, I am very tough on the telephone.

While I don't post pics I can give you a pretty accurate description of what I look like on the internet thus alleviateing the need for actual pics:

Please imagine a 6'2 version of Phil, only bigger, and more shredded. That is how I look on the internet, only my muscle bellies are a little fuller, more like Flex Wheeler, and my quads are shaped like Phils, but the size is more along the lines of Tom Plaatz.

Actually, In real life I look more like that "Adam" Character that used to post.:eek:
 
many people try to 'brag' to impress others. the part that sucks is many people see this and are sickened by it, so they purposefully are 100% honest with their claims, to NEVER be included in that group of bragging idiots. since so many people lie about everything, the people who are 100% honest are often assumed to be lying, just cause its common. so there are some guys who really do what they say they do, and many people dont even believe them cause of other lying retards.
 
so there are some guys who really do what they say they do, and many people dont even believe them cause of other lying retards.
That's very true. On another board some kid would always post really newb questions but claim to bench in the around 400 of 16 or 17. Sounds iffy... even when he posted pics it was hard to believe cause so many people will lie to live in a dreamland they create on the internet. When he posted a legit video of it it was really funny to read everyone's reactions. So I think to record your lifts is a very good idea, or post pics is a very good idea. Hell, if I benched 400 at 16 I'd show that vid to everyone.
 
To be honest......this IS the internet. There is nothing really serious enough on here to get worked up enough to care about claims people make. The IE weight lifting claims and sizes and food and gear and all........really who cares? If you have to lie about it......that is kind of sad. The anonymity of the IE should open up the ability to be completely honest with everyone not the other way around. Is it insecurity, is it someone trying to instigate.....is it the truth? Does it matter either way? I have seen people here with semi-decent physiques give out great advice for workouts, diet and gear........and I've see pro level BBers spout absolute non-truths and bad info.

So do the claims mean anything in reality? Not really........no matter what site you go to this kind of behavior exists..........usually(as stated previously) you know when someone is full of shit. To me the best is still people that try and back up their claims with video and do half reps or use terrible form.......that to me is priceless.

This is entertainment more than anything......I think we have been around long enought o know who is real and who is blowing smoke......I certainly don't need or want a youtube.com worth of ridiculous vids...you can stage those as easily as lying in text.
 
It's a good point. I go to some boards where people put their stats in their signature and everyone is 230lbs, 6ft, and benches 500 when in reality the majority are built like Ozzy Osbourne.

I must ask though (this could be just be stupid me though) but how do you get a video? With a tripod? Do you really say to a friend, "Hey film me while I do this set." ???

My brother (my real "bro", LOL) took a telephone video without me knowing it because I repped 120lb dumbells 14 times and he was just so amazed. But looking at the video afterwards, it could have been anyone it was so poor. Not to mention, it's on his phone!

And here's the kicker, and this really pisses me off, when people start in on someone with, "Those are only partials", or "Bad form", you know, just start ripping on the poor bastard.
 
I must ask though (this could be just be stupid me though) but how do you get a video? With a tripod? Do you really say to a friend, "Hey film me while I do this set." ???

Check out youtube...........there are 1000s of these things....and yes....that appears that is exactly what people are doing. They use their video phones.........pretty good quality actually.
 
I agree

Good point alfresco but a bullshitter will always bullshit about many things and if thats how people get their kicks thats upto them, nothing will change them.

I've been on here a year (not long I know) and I have respect for quite a few people here, some have photos or vids up, some post interesting articles, some have responded to PM's, some are just decent helpful people amd some are all of the above. I just use my own judgment and I know you'll do the same.

Its the internet and its the same as real life - it takes all sorts :)
 
im all for posting videos or photos. ive posted a few photos on here but have no way of posting a video unless i buy a $120 memory card for my phone(blackberry) but if you looked at any of my pics you would never believe what i bench, you'd laugh at what i squat but thats a whole other thread,(knee problems, dont judge me...lol). but then again theres a difference in stating the weight of a lift for a purpose versus just trying to show off. i think you can tell when its a bullshit post by the nature of the thread. if someone says hey heres what i was lifting and this happened, or heres what i weigh and heres what i lift, where does that need to go to compete(powerlifting) and its a legit. question. or if you just achieve a personal best you might want to share also. but when its more like you go into someone elses thread and the guy is saying he just hit 300 and someone else jumps in saying "oh yeah! i just did 600!" that kind of takes out any validity of the claim. i think if you want to post a thread about a lift in the form of a video thats great but i have a feeling alot of people dont want to come under the scrutiny of others who can be just out to bash them.
 
A picture speaks a thousand words.. I think its great that all the mods have their pics in the avatars... Just makes this site that more reputable.. I know other bodybuilding sites with moderators at 11,000 + posts and have never contributed one single photo... I don't think it gives them one bit of credability..
 
YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES! IF SOME OF THE JERKS WHO ALWAYS WRITE THINGS...

Maybe it's just me, but wouldn't it be great if a photo or video accompanied
a members post when they are making claims, casual or serious, about
their current or past condition? Don't you think that would help substantiate
or verify a claim or a statement they are making?

I just think that it adds another level of legitimacy to a persons statements,
and I for one would will feel a little bit more inclined to believe them. Maybe
I'm just too naive, or too skeptical, or I take things too seriously.

You don't see it here very much thankfully (I don't know how prevalent it is
on other boards) but when a member posts something on the order of
". . . I weigh 220 at 5'9'' and my arms are 19" cold at 10% bf and I am
running bla bla bla . . .", doesn't that just beg for a photo? It does in my
book. Or "I just squatted 505 for reps" Show me a video. I admire the
members that do do this, but they are few and far between.

And while I believe that some do not need to do this (though some still do,
thank you), as they have been there done that; their contest history and
prior posts have given these members legitimacy, it's still non the less helpful
to see the muscles that are so often referred to.

With accesses to digital cameras / phones and video recording devises
being the norm now a days, I just can't see a good reason not to post up
proof of your claims. They don't have to be great quality photos, rarely do
you see criticism regarding quality (hey, at least they are making an effort),
but I think there is a need to do something. It's the internet ya know, where
anybody and everybody can bench press 500 lbs and has an 18" arm.

I can also understand the desire for anonymity, but just crop the photo or
put on a mask. How tough can that be? Easy peasy.

And I guess one could always be deceitful; steal a photo or post a photo
of another person while claiming it's you, but what's the use in that? It
only gets you in trouble down the road if you live long enough.

Then again, perhaps, some members just don't care if other people believe
them. Fair enough. That's always an option. But please keep this in mind,
there are few places in this world besides the internet where advice is so
feely, so openly, so widely given and taken, with little or no consideration of,
or, the burden of proof. Isn't anonymity a beautiful thing?

So, I'm as guilty as the next person when it comes to doing this. And though my
best years are clearly well behind me and with much regret I don't have any
photos to show what I looked like when I make certain claims, I try, when ever
possible, to put up photos to help illustrate my point, to hopefully add legitimacy
to my posts.

I'm trying not to step on any toes or point any fingers, but how does
everybody feel about this?

Or is it just me?

And by the way, I'll say it again . . . kudos to all the members that do,
show us the money.


...WOULD BACK UP THEIR COMMENTS WITH A PHOTO OR VIDEO OF "THEIR GREATNESS" IT WOULD BE AWESOME! LOL. I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THAT WAS A REQUIREMENT. ONE COCKY COMMENT - BANNED UNTIL YOU POST A PICTURE OF YOURSELF. :D
 
Unfortunately, they still haven't made a camera with a viewing range wide enough to capture my freakin' massive delt width.....I mean it can be done, but the camera has to be so far back that you can't make out my face anyway, so it wouldn't prove who I am.
 
but i have a feeling alot of people dont want to come under the scrutiny of others who can be just out to bash them.

Now that is an excellent point too. There are far to many people that I have talked to that say they don't do it because it isn't worth the flaming by some idiot(s) that just wants to start shit.

Many people that are info fitness already have some type of self image issued they are trying to work through via diet and exercise.........more power to them for it..........and their egos just aren't ready for the possibility of getting stomped on by an instigator. I even talked to one person who really worked and dieted hard and because he didn't look like a "competitor" he received a lashing from a number of people instead of support for the amazing transformation he actually accomplished. That is pathetic.
 
I'll post my pics up though I won't be anywhere as big as some of the guys here.
 
Just got my pic up.
 
I'll post my pics up though I won't be anywhere as big as some of the guys here.

Hell man.......if that's you in the avi.......that is definitely respectable.

Thanks to you I realized I never put my profile pic up.
 
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BBJ- I KNOW YOUR HUGE I CAN SEE YOU FROM THIS STATE!

Unfortunately, they still haven't made a camera with a viewing range wide enough to capture my freakin' massive delt width.....I mean it can be done, but the camera has to be so far back that you can't make out my face anyway, so it wouldn't prove who I am.

BUT ONLY IF I CLIMB UP ON THE ROOF! SO, YEAH, DON'T BOTHER POSTING YOUR UGLY ASS UP ON THE BOARD AGAIN. ONCE IS ENOUGH! :D

GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK, MAN.
 
Unfortunately, they still haven't made a camera with a viewing range wide enough to capture my freakin' massive delt width.....I mean it can be done, but the camera has to be so far back that you can't make out my face anyway, so it wouldn't prove who I am.

Try standing sideways.:D

I got kicked off the beach for eclipsing the sun once.
 

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