Protein bars are such life savers on trips though. Especially outside the USA in countries that are really big on carby foods.
I didn't know Paul Borreson .....I did sit on the phone interview with him once when Jason Muller [ shawn ] interviewed him .....Guy was wasted ....he might have been reckless and a liar [ I don't know ].....but I liked lots of his ideas ....some which he may have stole from pusher [ are you the old maverick ] ....He used to say something I liked .a lot though....." Ignorance kills .......Let's kill ignorance " .......the man was right ....it is ignorance that ruins the bbing experience and it is ignorance that blinds the world and leads it to suffer as it is ........
He had a dream of connecting 30000 huge bbers and forming a community that supported one another and also influenced the world in a positive way ....bbing starts out as a very selfish activity, but it can transform in to art .[ which is just intelligence having fun isn't it ? ...lol] everyone can and should be a bber in some way , shape , or form .....it doesn't have to look like anyone else and should never be done as competition ......you are you perfect as you are ....you can play with that, and express that anyway you choose that is the whole fun in bbing imo
It is a godsend to have you posting on here. I could read your posts for days.I will always be a Haney fan ......He really didn't have any genetic elite guys to compete against in his era ...Christian was the only one size and ht wise that matched up , but he didn't have the wheels or thickness. If Rory , mendenhall , or jeff king had made it to the IFBB they would have pushed him more , but like Srydom they just couldn't match Haneys back and chest thickness . Haney's back genes were probably the best ever .....although Coleman and yates ended up with freakier backs ........
I still remember in 86 being 16 driving nearly 3 hrs to see Haney do a Seminar at the old San jose Golds [ great hardcore gym for a long time ] and someone asked if they could measure Haneys arm .....he said sure .......he said he was 270 and his arm cold ended up 20 and half ...Which is huge with no seo , today with how guys do it he 'd have had 22s at least ....lol ...And man was his upper chest thick ....like a dam shelf .....[ my upper chest sucks so seeing guys like that freaks me out ] ......only denis james and ruhel had upper chest shelves to that degree ......insane ...
Hey G , didn't you say you saw Victor rhichards measured in his prime at an event ....do you remember what his measurements were ..........I have seen him in and out of the gym multiple times .....I bet he was 330 in decent shape at his largest .....prob 23 inch arms....just thick ....his legs might have been like ramys in that 36 range ......lol ....I remember and muscle and fitness measuring him at like 22 and 32 and half but that was at 275 in near show shape .....he was a thick beast .....way way thicker than Haney .....but no way could have he beat him on stage .....
I like gym bbers .....I am huge fan of pretty physiques .....but guys that are huge and strong in the gym wear it is earned always inspired me
Nasser was very thick ....from head to toe ......Mevin Anthony 's back in a tank top was unreal .....I never saw many of the east coast guys train [ other than guys that were at Venice or in San Diego .....] Never saw any of the english guys train back then ,I wish I had , they seem to get after it .........Fisher trained hard ....not crazy strong, but intense ....Milos and sonny looked great all the time and did high volume when I saw them multiple times .....most guys trained the same ....mod volume and intensity ......and they all were strong .....the biggest tended to be the strongest as well , but not always .........No one worked out like Dante had us doing ......and it was fun being different ....
I will always be a Haney fan ......He really didn't have any genetic elite guys to compete against in his era ...Christian was the only one size and ht wise that matched up , but he didn't have the wheels or thickness. If Rory , mendenhall , or jeff king had made it to the IFBB they would have pushed him more , but like Srydom they just couldn't match Haneys back and chest thickness . Haney's back genes were probably the best ever .....although Coleman and yates ended up with freakier backs ........
I still remember in 86 being 16 driving nearly 3 hrs to see Haney do a Seminar at the old San jose Golds [ great hardcore gym for a long time ] and someone asked if they could measure Haneys arm .....he said sure .......he said he was 270 and his arm cold ended up 20 and half ...Which is huge with no seo , today with how guys do it he 'd have had 22s at least ....lol ...And man was his upper chest thick ....like a dam shelf .....[ my upper chest sucks so seeing guys like that freaks me out ] ......only denis james and ruhel had upper chest shelves to that degree ......insane ...
Hey G , didn't you say you saw Victor rhichards measured in his prime at an event ....do you remember what his measurements were ..........I have seen him in and out of the gym multiple times .....I bet he was 330 in decent shape at his largest .....prob 23 inch arms....just thick ....his legs might have been like ramys in that 36 range ......lol ....I remember and muscle and fitness measuring him at like 22 and 32 and half but that was at 275 in near show shape .....he was a thick beast .....way way thicker than Haney .....but no way could have he beat him on stage .....
Also, IAB, you talk about the upper chest development of those guys. Obviously a lot of that is genetic, but in your opinion, what are the best exercises to maximize that area? inc bb/db presses?
Maybe dante will chose to chime in on this thread ......not sure as we have lost touch .....but since he isn't training but a few guys anymore , maybe he will share his new ideas in eating for size and in training for mass ......I wonder if things have evolved for him .....he has awesome intuition , I would love to hear him pull the cap off and share where he sees things today