Gotcha! I know many who are on low dose proviron and their lipids stay fine. Seems to be a good compound to add to TRT.
Yep lipids fine for me too on 25 mg proviron and 12,5 mg test enan ed both pharma
Gotcha! I know many who are on low dose proviron and their lipids stay fine. Seems to be a good compound to add to TRT.
Im the same way had a dvt when i took statins,My lipids are always high in LDL but it's genetic from both my dad and mom. I'm usually in the 220-240 range and refuse to take statins. I've tried all of them. I always feel like crap on them after a few months.
Are u on trt? Pharma test e, nice i need to get back on trt and use test e this time and add proviYep lipids fine for me too on 25 mg proviron and 12,5 mg test enan ed both pharma
Are u on trt? Pharma test e, nice i need to get back on trt and use test e this time and add provi
What is the dosage your running broIdk if it's the level up in sex drive. That might be all of it actually. But in general I feel great on it. Anyone else?
Im the same way had a dvt when i took statins,
Is there anything u take for cholesterol?
Slo-Niacin works for improving your HDL and I took it for about a year then fell off. I also took this Cholestoff stuff but didn't notice a big drop so wasn't worth the $$.
Same here! I only take 12.5 mgs daily so I can stay on it year round.I have always liked PROVIRON really well. I look better, feel better and keeps libido high. I even like a little bit (12.5mg daily) with TRT.
Same here! I only take 12.5 mgs daily so I can stay on it year round.
It helps increase my sex drive.What do you get out of only 12.5mg if you don't mind me asking?
It's always an aas, it suppresses your endogenous test with time.... Once you are out of test and e2 and have only DHT how do you think you will feel?....I started some provi recently, i think it effected me negatively, started tearing up at stupid shit, i was on it by itself tho, @ 12.5 mlg per day, maybe u neeed test along with it? Dunno?
It's always an aas, it suppresses your endogenous test with time.... Once you are out of test and e2 and have only DHT how do you think you will feel?....
Anyways....
I like Proviron in little sprouts or before using Winstrol or others DHTs since it crashes SHBG and, when you add the other products they work directly on muscle.
Try to use Proviron for 2w and then switch to 4w of Winstrol, you will harden up faster than just 4w straight of Winny, because all the W will work on the muscles, and not on lowering shbg. It will do the same job but faster.
I like also cruising on 250-300 TestEn 300 MastEn and then when I want to have more sex with my gf pop 50mg Proviron Ed, it increases sex drive badly. Test mast Proviron Cialis Caber (Caverjet) is a common stack for porn actors... Maybe also HCG....
Having shbg always crashed isn't a good thing.... Shbg transports testosterone and whatever binds to it on body tissues.
Using Proviron as AI nowadays is wrong.... We have AIs for that... Just use an AI... Right tool for the right job.
Anyone else notice that with proviron it feels like estrogen increases? It seems that it frees up too much test from shbg and then too much free test = more e2.
I feel great on it too, but it makes e2 management more difficult (mood and libido swings, acne, water retention e nipple swelling).
I've recently come to the same conclusion, and I know another member (mpjuice) mentioned much the same thing in another thread, that when he cut out the Proviron, he could take more test with less AI.
For me, adding Proviron back in at a higher dose seems to have aggravated my pre-existing gyno, rather than helped with it, along with brought mood swings and increased acne.
It makes sense if you think about it from the perspective of SHBG. As SHBG falls, not only is more free testosterone able to do it's work in the unbound state, but also more free E2, as SHBG will preferentially bind to a DHT. As both DHT and E2 are important for libido, the libido increase from Proviron could actually have something to do in part with higher levels of free E2, although one would think that the free E2 would be blocked at the estrogen receptors (especially ER-b) by the DHT.
Or maybe it's because I'm just getting old, and things don't effect me the same anymore. At any rate, I'll be trying to drop the Proviron and see if my mood and gyno get better or worse.
Ok, i will tell you what i've experienced recently.
I was running 250 mg of test e plus 50 mg of proviron ed (25 am and 25 pm) and 12.5 mg ed of exemestane. Proviron was ugl. I was dry to the bone. As soon as i switched to pharma proviron (bayer) i have experienced, in a matter of two days: big increase in libido and wellbeing, back acne, oily skin, water retention and... gyno. I've made the mistake of increasing proviron to 100 mg per day. So, knowing that proviron was real proviron i came to this conclusion: too much free test and e2 at a given time.
So i have increased exemestane to 25 mg per day, dropped proviron to 50 mg per day again, felt very good for about 3 days, then crashed e2 and felt like shit in the opposite way (no libido, flatness, joint pain, weakness and so on).
Keep in mind that aromasin reduces shbg as well (proviron instead binds them with 4 times greater affinity of dht). So too low shbg (or too many compounds binding them) = big hormonal swings.
I have the same reaction everytime i introduce aromasin with test. Firstly i become bigger but watery, nipples get bigger and sensitive, then with time the antiaromatase effect prevails and things stabilyze.
That's an awful lot of AI (25mg exemestane) for a relatively low amount of test (250mg). For most men that would crash their E2, never mind the effects of 100mg Proviron. I can't imagine doing that myself, but I guess it just goes to show we are all different as individuals, and by trial and error you have to find what works specifically for you.