does eq lower or raise estrogen

whoremoan · Mar 9, 2022

some people have the belief eq lowers estrogen, i was always thought it raised it
but ive never taken bloods while on it to see myself

has anyone got bloods while on test/eq to see what its done to estrogen ?

only interested in answers from people who have seen bloods back their claim if it lowers or raises estrogen

pickapeck · Mar 9, 2022

Look up videos by Moreplates Moredates. He has a good in depth report on this.

juggy38 · Mar 9, 2022

You’re gonna start a fistfight with this thread lol

Alzadosghost · Mar 9, 2022

juggy38 said:
You’re gonna start a fistfight with this thread lol

Lol

NorwegianMuscle · Mar 9, 2022

Masteron

Bandy0974 · Mar 12, 2022

Crashed the shit out of mine but seems everyone reacts different.

jaxino · Mar 12, 2022

I was sure that EQ was estrogen neutral, nothing more wrong.

On 1250 Sust 1250 EQ i need 2x12,5mg Aromasin to keep my E2 around 40-45 pg/ml

With TestE instead i didn't use any AI but Sust holds more test per ml at same mg/ml.

EQ blocks aromatise enzyme from working, doesn't work as AI or whatever.

Did some test with some primo and 1:1 PrimoE:TestE need no AI up to 500:500

Another thing about EQ it didn't change my kidneys values at all, not my Hemoglobin/Hematocrit (but this is really subjective).

If your idea is to run EQ solo, at 1g had 15pg/ml of E2 so.... You need to run 2g maybe even more to have good E2 levels.

luki7788 · Mar 12, 2022

I saw low e2 results on the test + EQ combination when:
- Test ratio: EQ was 1: 1
-when the EQ was higher than the test

but I have never seen an E2 too low when the test was higher than the EQ

5Noles · Mar 12, 2022

Eq/ Primo both very effective at lowering estrogen for me.

luki7788 · Mar 12, 2022

a few years ago my good friend was taking 2.5g test + 2.5g EQ per week, everyone wondered how the result was e2 = 5 without using any IA - then no one thought that EQ could have an impact on it.

jaxino · Mar 12, 2022

luki7788 said:
I saw low e2 results on the test + EQ combination when:
- Test ratio: EQ was 1: 1
-when the EQ was higher than the test

but I have never seen an E2 too low when the test was higher than the EQ

Jeez i tried 1,5g EQ 1,2g Sust it was a nightmare couldn't sleep and every joint was hurting.
Had to add some Dbol to feel "fine".

luki7788 · Mar 12, 2022

jaxino said:
Jeez i tried 1,5g EQ 1,2g Sust it was a nightmare couldn't sleep and every joint was hurting.
Had to add some Dbol to feel "fine".

the most I have taken personally EQ is 1500mg + 2g test + some nandrolone, I could not face any side effects that people write about here

Type-IIx · Mar 12, 2022

I now strongly believe after seeing so much data, that EQ (which aromatizes at ~58% the rate of T) principally aromatizes to E₁ as a result of its being a 3,17-dione (like androstenedione, AD) it chiefly produces estrone (analogously to AD, via Aromatase) as an aromatic product (a "weak estrogen," its RBA for ER-α and ER-β cells being 8% and 5% that of E₂, respectively).

jaxino · Mar 13, 2022

Type-IIx said:
I now strongly believe after seeing so much data, that EQ (which aromatizes at ~58% the rate of T) principally aromatizes to E₁ as a result of its being a 3,17-dione (like androstenedione, AD) it chiefly produces estrone (analogously to AD, via Aromatase) as an aromatic product (a "weak estrogen," its RBA for ER-α and ER-β cells being 8% and 5% that of E₂, respectively).

I did bloods for estrone when i was on 1g EQ alone and It was through the roof! Unfortunately E2 was so low...

Is there any chance that E1 converts to E2 and then some sides hit us?

Type-IIx · Mar 13, 2022

jaxino said:
I did bloods for estrone when i was on 1g EQ alone and It was through the roof! Unfortunately E2 was so low...

Is there any chance that E1 converts to E2 and then some sides hit us?

Yes. E1 is converted to E2 via 17β-HSD1 (A1-Q327 gene).