I know Phil....remember I am a client of yours...
But for 18 yrs, it has been drilled into my head that 2 grams of Protien per LB of bodyweight adds lean muscle. 1 gram per lb of body weight is minimum to maintain weight.
Since im weighing in the high 260's.. I feel as though i need the 540ish G's of protien to build lean tissue. Anything less and I feel "soft"
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And how was it working for you? Got any pics with trunks on from when we started? .....then pics now?
No, you got pics from my winter bulk....I need to get the wife to snap some new pics.
But you do not agree that it take say 1.5 to 2 g's of protien per LB of bodyweight to ADD muscle mass while being....Assisted? Since protien synthisis is greatly improved?
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Hopefully this will expain what im thinking/talking about.
Listen to what Milos says.
I always listen to you Phil, im just throwing out what other People think ...to have a civil debate.....
Others may chime in !!!!
This isnt a "blanket party"
This is all about learning and questioning what is right and what is wrong.
If people never asked questions, would we all know the right answers?
Yes, that's fine, but should you not know what I am saying FIRST???
I totally understand, we have changed the Micros in my diet to get in more protein, but im just not hungry enough to get in the amount of protien I believe I need.
But like you said..... How do I know what I need for protien requirements?
Well I have been in this game for 18 yrs. The 1st 4-5 Yrs was as a powerlifter= Ate everything in sight...
I can tell with my strength and hardness of my muscles when im too low on protien.
So I am comfortable enough to know what i need in terms of building lean tissue.
BUT.........Is it the SAME for EVERYONE?
This is the question I am asking.
The goal is to MAKE yourself hungry.......thats the goal.........
No rice now! Does sound good tho. Protein, veggies, fruits, good fats.
LOL, i try I try!!!
I do get in 6-8 meals per day with about 40-50g's of protein.....
But that equals out to 450g's tops.....But I have to force myself to eat
or drink more protien to get to the 2'gs per lb of bodyweight since im 268-270ish.
8 full meals plus a couple shakes a day....Im just not hungry.
I have to force feed.
Since im no longer competeing...well we'll see.........Never say never!
Maybe I should just eat less and drop to 235-240ish.
Naaaa......
LOL, i try I try!!!
I do get in 6-8 meals per day with about 40-50g's of protein.....
But that equals out to 450g's tops.....But I have to force myself to eat
or drink more protien to get to the 2'gs per lb of bodyweight since im 268-270ish.
8 full meals plus a couple shakes a day....Im just not hungry.
I have to force feed.
Since im no longer competeing...well we'll see.........Never say never!
Maybe I should just eat less and drop to 235-240ish.
Naaaa......
I think Phil's philosophy is to eat what your body REQUIRES..your muscles will dictate how much protein you need to eat...once you have hit that requirement, excess protein will not be used..and how would you know how much your muscle requires?
By force feeding yourself, you are also most prolly not allowing your body to maximise the nutrients you're ingesting as you are not hungry.. I think the digestive system functions best when you are hungry...in other words, higher protein assimilation as compared to when not hungry...
just my thoughts...what do you think phil?
How much protein do you actually think needs to be replaced in your body each day? How much new protein do you think is synthesized each day, even with extensive supplements (hint: it can't be much or you'd be ronnie coleman in fairly little time).
I also have to question your contention that you feel less "hard" when your protein is at "only" 450g/day versus 520, both because its hard to think of a physiological mechanism by which this would be the case and because the difference in the two macro profiles is fairly small.
In the end, you need to decide whether you think that you need 2g/lb P (and X carbs and Y fats) of bodyweight, every day, end of story, or if you're going to let hunger be your guide. For myself, I've been able to grow while staying leaner by following the latter prescription. Sometimes my hunger takes me to 6 meals, in which case I only consume 360g P, sometimes 8 (480g/day).