Acne before steroids

[markinson1]

Ok, if I am 20 and have mild (sometimes worse during breakouts)acne on my face and back, does that mean that my hormones are peaked? I have not used any gear, but am planning to by the end of this year. Also, what roids stunts your growth/are not recommended for people in my age group? I know steroids in general can be dangerous for anyone, but which ones should I definitely rule out?

Please, try to keep the posts informative rather than bashing me outright.

 

[Jarconis]

id wait a lil bit till you were 21, and get on some accutane for now. Anything test based will only make you break out really bad, and if you avoid test and do all the other anabolics, you libido will go in the shitter.

 

[rAJJIN]

Markinson, good to see you posting and trying to learn whats going on.
I didnt mean to seem negative or make you feel I was bashing you earlier
But I do give you credit for sticking around and Not acting like a baby about it!! Just read the board and Try and learn everything you can before Jumping into it. Your first run is your best so Be sure and have a pretty good idea of what your doing. The source questions you were asking about Youll probably learn on the way

 

[PlatinumLabz]

Ok, if I am 20 and have mild (sometimes worse during breakouts)acne on my face and back, does that mean that my hormones are peaked? I have not used any gear, but am planning to by the end of this year. Also, what roids stunts your growth/are not recommended for people in my age group? I know steroids in general can be dangerous for anyone, but which ones should I definitely rule out?

Please, try to keep the posts informative rather than bashing me outright.

You should try this product:
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23996

 

[markinson1]

Thank you for the replies.
Yeah, I will wait until I turn 21(in a few months), but i don't think it will make much of a difference since my body has been the same way since I was 18--no gains in weight or height.
- about accutane, i certainly wish i had access to it, but from experience, almost no doctors will prescribe it if the case isn't extremely severe. Unless, there is some site I can get it from--does anyone know?

So, what gear would be the safest for someone in my situation?(btw, I have been researching online for a long time and my body seems at the appropriate developmental stage, so it is not like I just learned about this and decided to take steroids.)

And, can anyone answer the questions on my orginal post specifically?

Peace.

 

[nosmas]

Ok, if I am 20 and have mild (sometimes worse during breakouts)acne on my face and back, does that mean that my hormones are peaked? I have not used any gear, but am planning to by the end of this year. Also, what roids stunts your growth/are not recommended for people in my age group? I know steroids in general can be dangerous for anyone, but which ones should I definitely rule out?

Please, try to keep the posts informative rather than bashing me outright.

Why would we bash you buddy? Give us a chance before you assume the worst. A good question gets good answers. I was wondering about this myself. Thanks for the good question.

 

[OuchThatHurts]

Thank you for the replies.
Yeah, I will wait until I turn 21(in a few months), but i don't think it will make much of a difference since my body has been the same way since I was 18--no gains in weight or height.
- about accutane, i certainly wish i had access to it, but from experience, almost no doctors will prescribe it if the case isn't extremely severe. Unless, there is some site I can get it from--does anyone know?

So, what gear would be the safest for someone in my situation?(btw, I have been researching online for a long time and my body seems at the appropriate developmental stage, so it is not like I just learned about this and decided to take steroids.)

And, can anyone answer the questions on my orginal post specifically?

Peace.

Is it cyctic acne? If so, then accutane (isotretinoin) is your best bet. But you don't want to do that AND a cycle simultaneously. Otherwise some topical like from Platinum Labz is a good treatment.

In regards to your questions. These have been asked and answered many times but since you seem to have a problem using the search button, let me suggest a few things. All AAS can/will cause closure of growth plates on the ends of your bones. Go to google and type this in without quotes "steroids growth plates". READ. The second part of your question is easy. Nobody in your age group should need AAS (steroids) to grow. Are you a competitive athlete or how long have you been training heavy (NOT recreationally)? As far as which ones to rule out for your first cycle? ALL of them except maybe test or anavar. Test is going to aromatize though and possible make your acne much worse because of increased sebum production.

You see, markinson, we're not bashing you bro but all this stuff has been covered many, many times. In fact, at a professional board like this one, you shouldn't even ask such a question outside the beginners forum. We have one ya know! You won't get flamed or ridiculed.

Do you really think professional athletes, competitors, judges, competing bodybuilders and powerlifters want to discuss what drugs a 20-yr-old guy with acne should take? It's not that anyone is being mean to you, just not making any attempt to be nice. LOL

 

[nosmas]

RIGHT ON OTH!

 

[nosmas]

Again, thats a very good question..........for the beginners forum.

 

[OuchThatHurts]

Now that we are here in the beginners forum we can talk more about this. What is it you're trying to accomplish? You obviously are fixated on doing some steroids... why? What's going on? You want to be bigger stronger etc.? Somebody fucking with you?

How long have you been training and what do you eat?

 

[markinson1]

great advice, i certainly did not know that.
What cycle do you recommend for a beginner oth?

 

[OuchThatHurts]

great advice, i certainly did not know that.
What cycle do you recommend for a beginner oth?

Did you see the questions I asked you in my above post?

 

[markinson1]

Have been working out for the past 3 years and practiced sports competitively(jiu-jitsu for the past 4 years) my entire life. Diet could be improved but overall I am eating a reasonable amount of protein and drinking shakes. The main reason I want steroids is to improve my performance on the gym and build muscle mass. my frame is good but I have always been skinny, and my arms are especially thin. So, i guess i just want to be stronger and grow bigger. Right now, I have reached a plataeu and cannot seem to lift heavier weights.

 

[stang4life]

Honestly bro, if your asking these kinds of questions you need to do ALOT more research before you even think of doing a cycle. If you did you would know that an oral only cycle, especially the one posted is crap. Im not trying to bash you just saying you gotta buckle down and do some reading

 

[nosmas]

If your diet is not in check as you say....forget the AAS. Its not worth it without all other factors in place. improve your diet and you will see your plataeu break.

 

[trig]

Keep reading....

I'm not promoting it's use, because I have never tried it, but I do know that if you'll do the research everyone keeps telling you to then you might just find some accutane related information.

Holy Sh** I get to be the one that posts this link in this thread!! http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1158
Read that article, it's the best place to start.

 

[markinson1]

I understand all of that. Again, it is not like I want to do steroids tomorrow. I just want your recommendation on a beginner cycle so I can research the gear in that particular cycle.

What about this other combination from the same site?
week#**Deca Test E Dianabol Nolvadex Clomid
*******Weekly Weekly Daily Daily Daily
1******200mg 250mg 30mg - -
2******300mg 250mg 30mg - -
3******300mg 250mg 30mg - -
4******400mg 500mg 40mg 20 -
5******400mg 500mg 40mg 20 -
6******300mg 250mg 40mg 20 -
7******300mg 250mg - 20 -
8******200mg 250mg - 20 -
9******- - - 20 50

 

[stang4life]

You want a good beginner cycle? doesn't get any better than:
test E @ 500 mg/week for 12 weeks with a proper PCT. You dont wanna run a bunch of different gear on your first cycle. There now go read up...

 

[OuchThatHurts]

So you're 20 years old and have reached a plateau. Okay. Well that's good then. That means you have been training well and reached the limits of your current training methods. You know what you have to do? Change now. If it's size you want, one thing I see young gainers doing is a lot of cardio. Cardio is good for cardiovascular health but it does nothing for muscle mass or weight loss. In fact, when you do a lot of cardio, your metabolic rate when at rest actually slows down and so will protein synthesis (muscle building included). You're body can be more clever at holding on to fat than you are at getting rid of it sometimes.

Another thing is stress. Young people are too damn busy these days. Taking classes, working a job, lifting, jujitsu, and heaven knows what else. This is not good. Stress increases cortisol and other catabolic hormones which prevent muscle growth. You need to tailor back your life as much as possible to get enough rest and be free of stress.

Training... train less, rest more. You can train a bodypart once a week. try changing your routine. You should make squats, deadlifts, cleans, and bench presses the base of your training. Throw out all that isolation crap. Do a split routine. Monday do squats and cleans. Thursday do deadlifts and bench presses (or any combination that gives you the most intesity). Eat a ton. Don't worry about calories. Fuck calories. Focus on macros. Protein, carbs, and fats. Get a lot of all, protein most of all. If you start to put on fat (which I doubt you will) cut back on the carbs and fat by a 1/4.

As far as steroids. You are already on steroids. Look in the mirror. That acne? That's caused by steroids. Your own. You have plenty. Get some creatine. Use creatine ethyl ester (CEE) or kre-alkyln (better). It's all I'm using right now and I'm 35 and still getting stronger and bigger. There will be a time in your life when you may need the assistance of steroids but that time is not now. You need to learn everything you can about your endocrine system, the compounds used for performance enhancement, and lastly, how your own body will respond to them. Anyone on any board that claims to be able to know all these things about you is lying. There is no magic bullet. It takes hard work and knowledge of your own body and the sciences behind it. Kinesiology, biology, endocrinology.

Tailor the above guidelines into your life and you will grow. It's very uncertain what you will do to your health long-term if you throw off your HPTA so early in life.

 

[trig]

Not trying to be a dick, but it seems like your looking for the easy answer and there isn't one. I am only on my second cycle so I will not try to give you advice on that, but personally I was not willing to take the plunge until I knew everyting I could about all the compounds, not just the ones I found in a newbie cycle on some site. How do you know those are the best compounds for you to take? The members here are awesome, most of them have forgotten more than I know, but I still would not take anyone's advice without doing my own investigation first. I made the decision to use over a year before I actually did it . I'm not saying you should do it like I did, but I haven't seen any information. If I were you, I would read "Growth principles for beginners", get my diet and training in check (this will most likely spur new growth), then after all that, start researching AAS and asking these questions.

Just my .02, take it or leave it.