just called my bud down the street who is a physician (specialist in internal medicine and knows a little about gear lol) i asked about this condition and that two members of the board have come down with this condition.. he stated the following that might be interesting to others
1) condition will effect those mainly taking orals..
2) the condition effects 1 in 100,000 in females that take a oral birth control and hardly effect those that take the shot..
3) it is not just gear that can effect it.. those of us who use anything in pill form in abundence or for any length of time.. meaning anti e's, and pain killers..
4) the liver is a very strong organ and can take plenty of abuse but, ya have to give it some time off.. lol..
5) he state that orals should not be in anyones arsenal.. anadrol being a big culprit in his eyes .. he comes on the boards on occasion and is astonished by those who are taking 100mgs or more of anadrol or dbol.. as he put it "your gonna pay the piper doing that"..
6) he also said that the pct plans he reads are also hard to except.. nolva does not require 20-40 mgs a day.. i have said that inthe past.. look at the studies.. nolva and many other anti e's work great at very low dose and many have long half lives.. a every day routine is not needed.. nolva had , in some studies, caused a great increase in test at very low dose (10mgs).. we have some on theboards stating to take 40 mgs for over a month.. why?.. where did that figure come from? remember that nolva can be liver toxic too.. so it can also be many things we take in addition to the gear.. remeber that when you are shoving down anti e's ect.. .5 of arimedex twice a week is ample.. but, we have guys doing 1 mgs three times a week.. isnt needed..
so bare in mind that we need to stay away from some things.. here is the list he says are not needed 1) anadrol (way to harsh n ratio to gains) 2) tren ( 225 mgs a week for 4 weeks max) 3) cut back on the anti e;s.. less is best..4) if ya need pain meds there is a issue.. you need to either wait for the pain to subside or go have it looked at.. it is not uncommon for us to take advil and ibpro for way too long and on a regular basis..
as he said.. all the little things add up.. revamp what ya take and just dont look at the gear.. look at the whole routine.. and.. no orals..