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Any Insights For Me - Part 2

xcelbeyond

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Here's the deal - almost any gear doesn't bother me much. Here's another post about a recent related incident: http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=4540

Through subsequent conversation with rAJJIN, I figured out it was the boldenone base that caused all this pain and I gave all I made away and still have about 20g powder left!!!

I got scammed on some Test Base powder - 50g worth. After making about 30g worth, my powder melted!!! Now the the melting point of Test Base is ~150C!! Asshole sent me Enanthate instead (he didn't think I'd want to wait for Base to come in) and tried to get me to take Enanthate instead but I said I'd wait. I think he's in jail now - what goes 'round comes 'round (I had no part in his goin' down - but at his end he f*cked many bros). So for many months I though I was injecting TNE when it was enanthate!

About the beginning of all this, I bought some Test Suspension from DL and it never phased me a bit (pain). So I figure that TNE doesn't bother me.

The reason I quit the cycle I'm on is I started to knot up EVERYWHERE I injected!!!!! Ther swollen quite a bit (noticeable) but are not red. The pain is more like I described in the post above - kinda like a pulled muscle. So I'm all SWOLED UP :D - bothe quads, glutes, delts and left outter biceps head (now this looks FREAKY :) )

Between this and my Part 1 post I'm really at a loss. Any suggestions or words of wisdom?

xcel
 
Forgot to add this.

Each injection was ED at 1ml TNE in PEG (100mg/ml) and 0.5ml Stanozolol in PEG (100mg/ml).

Now the TNE was separating when it cooled down and I had to reheat it ED the let cool (it'd stay suspended). Do you think between the quick absorption of PEG by body and "this" could cause site pain?

xcel
 
excel

Sounds to me like it is a reaction to the injection itself, not what is in the injection.
You may want to have some blood work done to get your white blood cell count.
Your body may actually recognize the injections as "foreign" and attack it like an infection.
Something to think about.
 
man, anytime you don't know what's wrong, good luck findin' someone that does 'cause you know your sh*t! i'm really sorry to hear about you getting scammed though, just when you think you know a guy huh?!?
 
You need to go off for a while and give your body a rest.

I was using TNE and the amount of volume left me with lumps eventually. I think it causes scar tissue and eventually slower dissipation, leading to knots over time.

Those are in contrast to the high BA knots....

SB
 
Sandblaster said:
You need to go off for a while and give your body a rest.

Those are in contrast to the high BA knots....
Good to see ya pop in Mr Gorrila! :D

I though that 10 months would have been a long enough rest - how long are you thinking?

I didn't think any of it was high BA as everything was 100mg/ml.

xcel
 
why don't you ask a doc? Do you know what the fluid is, why the fluid would be present?

Also, was your TNE in oil or water? I was always under the impression it was not necessary to shoot ED with TNE in oil.
 
jawbreakerkid said:
why don't you ask a doc? Do you know what the fluid is, why the fluid would be present?
Thanks for the feedback. If you'd have read the post I referenced in Part 1, I went to the doc and had the fluid tested.

xcel
 
xcelbeyond said:
Now the TNE was separating when it cooled down and I had to reheat it ED the let cool (it'd stay suspended).
xcel

You answered your own question, well in a way. After many many trials and errors I have come to this conclusion.

Too much BA = Larger swollen soft area, red, chills, fever, sick feeling.

Bad solution (not enough ba, not getting the horomne to stay into solution, ratios all messed up) =Swollen, nots, very hard.

Iam positive have the second one XCEL. I tell you why.

Sit out your bottle and let it cool down, it will crash, and look at the bottle and see what the insdide looks like, all that hard gunk at the bottom is what is left inside your muscle. The ba will leave and the oil will leave the area (inside the muscle just like inside the bottle) and you will be left with horomone crystals.
 
I think that's it also weight77.

This shit swells me up WAY MORE than Syntherol - LOL. It's suspended in KC's Easy Kit w/PEG - but it does crystalize when it cools down after a while. KC said the body absorbs PEG quicker than water - so in combination with separation, that's what's happening.

xcel
 
Weight has the answer. I made some enanthate once and tried to use a smaller amunt of BA and it hurt worse than injecting suspension. The pain and swelling was unbearable. Added another cc of BA and it was completely painless. Live and learn.
 
I added a bit more BA as I may have been a tad heavy on the powder - din't help, still crystallizes.

Maybe watering down with more PEG?

xcel
 
Did you try more BB, or did you use any at all? Remember you can go up to around 20% with the BB.
 
More PEG willl help the powder stay in solution better but wont help much with pain cause it will still leave the site very quickly causing crystalization in the depot.

And BB wont help at all with a PEG solution because it is not very soluble with PEG.

Regards,
KC
 

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