Bad PIP/swelling and overall crappy reaction to primo....common?

[lifter]

Alright so an update, a couple guys asked....that last pin Tuesday in my delt of the 1ml 250cyp and 2mil 200primo pretty much disabled me as it ramped up and now calmed down.

Reduced it to .75ml of the cyp250 and .75ml of the primo200 with the plan of doing 3x a week pins. Took the first pin in the glute Friday and it's better obviously as it's much less concentration but not sure if it's worth it to continue as I did still get good pip just less horrendous. I'm going to keep at it rotating sites and see how it goes, if the feverish feeling returns I'm going to abandon it altogether. I will update in a week or so, thanks again fellas.

Sounds like whatever you are willing to tolerate. If it were me, Id toss it mainly because I would be running out of good spots to pin.

I've been in your shoes in the past though and toughed it out but in my situation only because I was running a log and the PIP wasn't exactly crippling. Also I know Primo isn't normally cheap so if you have a lot of it, yeah, it makes it harder to toss.

 

[3BILLS]

Have you been putting the gear to use and going to the gym ?

 

[FrancisK]

Have you been putting the gear to use and going to the gym ?

Absolutely I have, although I skipped shoulders last week because my delt felt like someone hit it with a sledge hammer....

 

[3BILLS]

Absolutely I have, although I skipped shoulders last week because my delt felt like someone hit it with a sledge hammer....

Awesome good to hear

 

[LK3]

Alright so an update, a couple guys asked....that last pin Tuesday in my delt of the 1ml 250cyp and 2mil 200primo pretty much disabled me as it ramped up and now calmed down.

Reduced it to .75ml of the cyp250 and .75ml of the primo200 with the plan of doing 3x a week pins. Took the first pin in the glute Friday and it's better obviously as it's much less concentration but not sure if it's worth it to continue as I did still get good pip just less horrendous. I'm going to keep at it rotating sites and see how it goes, if the feverish feeling returns I'm going to abandon it altogether. I will update in a week or so, thanks again fellas.

over the years i have done lots of big shots and small shots. these days i really like admins to be less then one cc. they seem much less problematic this way.
good luck bro

 

[mexbeast]

Alright so an update, a couple guys asked....that last pin Tuesday in my delt of the 1ml 250cyp and 2mil 200primo pretty much disabled me as it ramped up and now calmed down.

Reduced it to .75ml of the cyp250 and .75ml of the primo200 with the plan of doing 3x a week pins. Took the first pin in the glute Friday and it's better obviously as it's much less concentration but not sure if it's worth it to continue as I did still get good pip just less horrendous. I'm going to keep at it rotating sites and see how it goes, if the feverish feeling returns I'm going to abandon it altogether. I will update in a week or so, thanks again fellas.

It almost sounds like maybe it's 1test/dhb and not primo!

 

[FrancisK]

It almost sounds like maybe it's 1test/dhb and not primo!

Funny I actually ran DHB prior to this with much less PIP! Mind you low dose...

 

[TomJ]

over the years i have done lots of big shots and small shots. these days i really like admins to be less then one cc. they seem much less problematic this way.
good luck bro

This has been me the last year as well.

Unless I'm pressed for time, I don't break out the 3cc syringes ever.
I'll do 3 1ml shots with 29g slins before the high volume shots 9/10 days.

 

[slesh]

Alright so an update, a couple guys asked....that last pin Tuesday in my delt of the 1ml 250cyp and 2mil 200primo pretty much disabled me as it ramped up and now calmed down.

Reduced it to .75ml of the cyp250 and .75ml of the primo200 with the plan of doing 3x a week pins. Took the first pin in the glute Friday and it's better obviously as it's much less concentration but not sure if it's worth it to continue as I did still get good pip just less horrendous. I'm going to keep at it rotating sites and see how it goes, if the feverish feeling returns I'm going to abandon it altogether. I will update in a week or so, thanks again fellas.

Why are you opposed to daily pinning?

 

[FrancisK]

Why are you opposed to daily pinning?

I suppose just for convenience and I would rather stick myself with a needle less instead of more. Its not the worst idea though, let's see how this goes first I guess.

 

[slesh]

I suppose just for convenience and I would rather stick myself with a needle less instead of more. Its not the worst idea though, let's see how this goes first I guess.

I feel you. I used to be a twice a week max guy on long esters but less PIP and stable blood levels are absolutely worth it when it comes to daily pinning. Been an overall game changer for me.

 

[Samson250]

I feel you. I used to be a twice a week max guy on long esters but less PIP and stable blood levels are absolutely worth it when it comes to daily pinning. Been an overall game changer for me.

Do you still use long esters as frequently?

 

[slesh]

Do you still use long esters as frequently?

The only long ester I use is Test Cyp as my Test base because of the concentration and zero PIP compared to Prop. Everything else I try and use short esters if possible.

 

[gib68sg]

The only long ester I use is Test Cyp as my Test base because of the concentration and zero PIP compared to Prop. Everything else I try and use short esters if possible.

I’m slowly moving to shorter esters except for test and boldenone. Tren ace all day (although I have a stockpile of hex now too) and I’ll never run deca anymore, just npp. I really don’t mind the everyday injections. Feels like I’m going in reverse, used to hate pinning and now I don’t mind it lol. I guess the quality of gear I’m using is different and flows through smaller pins now too.

 

[slesh]

I’m slowly moving to shorter esters except for test and boldenone. Tren ace all day (although I have a stockpile of hex now too) and I’ll never run deca anymore, just npp. I really don’t mind the everyday injections. Feels like I’m going in reverse, used to hate pinning and now I don’t mind it lol. I guess the quality of gear I’m using is different and flows through smaller pins now too.

Lol same

 

[LK3]

I suppose just for convenience and I would rather stick myself with a needle less instead of more. Its not the worst idea though, let's see how this goes first I guess.

i think its more convenient to not be in pain from injections.
lol

 

[LK3]

I’m slowly moving to shorter esters except for test and boldenone. Tren ace all day (although I have a stockpile of hex now too) and I’ll never run deca anymore, just npp. I really don’t mind the everyday injections. Feels like I’m going in reverse, used to hate pinning and now I don’t mind it lol. I guess the quality of gear I’m using is different and flows through smaller pins now too.

i think 100mg/ml compounds work better.
all my personal gear is 100mg/ml.
ive played with this on things other then aas too.
100mg/ml is better then 200mg/ml even if its just the compound and water. by better i mean less feel in terms of discomfort and seemingly more efficient like 2x100mg is better effect then 1x200mg.

smaller really is better in all my experience.

 

[Alzadosghost]

I even pin long esters daily. Works for me. I don’t mind sticking myself Ed. Less oil Ed is better and less discomfort than taking 5-6 ml every few days. None of the gear I have hurts. Never does. Test and eq is 300mg/ml I never get in any higher concentration than that.

 

[Doitagain]

I even pin long esters daily. Works for me. I don’t mind sticking myself Ed. Less oil Ed is better and less discomfort than taking 5-6 ml every few days. None of the gear I have hurts. Never does. Test and eq is 300mg/ml I never get in any higher concentration than that.

Another beauty of EQ. When brewed peoperly, you can inject 900mg ANYWHERE and 24hrs later you can't say where you jabbed.

 

[Alzadosghost]

Ya eq is always smooth. I experimented with a batch a few yrs back that was 500mg/ml and it was painless too.