Big Beyond Belief Program

Equalizer · Apr 16, 2010

This program seems to have been talked about quite a bit in the past on some forums but I haven't seen any recent posts pertaining to it. A lot of people seem to have good things to say about it and usually a GOOD routine will stand the test of time. Does anyone have any experience with the BBB program? From what I read it seems to be a high frequency low volume program and I think there is something about the volume being ramped or something to that effect.

lucian · Apr 16, 2010

hit up a search on here. we did some talking about it a long time ago. it is a good program.

kingpeon · Apr 16, 2010

It's a great program. I haven't hit a plateau that I wasn't able to turn into some very nice gains since starting way back when it first came out. The Titan system (the latest installment) will make you feel mortal very quickly. That one is also worth a try.

getbig235 · Apr 16, 2010

Is this the same program put out in the early 90s? i still have the book from tom Platz, Leo Costa and Russ Horine.

lexxdiamons · Apr 17, 2010

I almost died laughing when I saw this post. A buddy of mine bought the Big Beyond Belief book when we were in high school in the mid nineties. We would work out together and follow the program. Great workout. If I recall properly it was broken down into I think four phases. Each Phase consisted of a ramping up phase of I think four or six weeks, followed by a ramping down phase. Great results.

penance · Apr 17, 2010

here is the ebook: Big Beyond BElief

royce · Apr 18, 2010

how do i download this book or just get the workout? i plateau so easily and it takes me forever to get past it. im still somewhat new to bodybuilding. only been doing it for about 2.5 yrs but on and off. i just really need good resources to find good workouts for all body parts. any help would be appreciated.

Equalizer · Apr 18, 2010

I don't think you can download it from that site but you can read it. It's not something you can just take a workout from, it's important to read most of the book to understand how to set it up and apply it.

The e-book is available for purchase and download from the OTS website at bigbeyondbelief.com

Equalizer · Apr 18, 2010

After spending some time on a few other forums doing a little searching on this topic I have read that it's actually Phil Hernon who deserves most of the credit for this program and that Leo Costa basically just did the marketing for it and maybe a little bastardising of the routine if anything. Especially in regards to the 6day per week 2 times per day version.

But it looks like a good program imo and has a lot of positive fans.

penance · Apr 18, 2010

i just uploaded the updated version of BBB to megaupload, have a look

titan training IV
**broken link removed**

penance · Apr 18, 2010

uploaded Serious Growth -Big Beyond Belief, bad resolution though

**broken link removed**

Hungry Hungarian · Apr 18, 2010

lucian said:
hit up a search on here. we did some talking about it a long time ago. it is a good program.

I had all of those at one point or another. I'l bet if I go through my stuff i can fnd the Titan Training pretty easily. The program I never see anymore that they did is the Bulgarian Power Burst....it was actually before the book Big Beyond Beleif that had Platz on the cover. Anyone ever see that one anymore? I swear I did that workout as a freshman in college, twice a day and the results were ridiculous!

And now that I remember...it's the one that had our very own Phil Hernon as a spokesperson. My first Intro to Phil and years later here we are! Phil do you have any good inside stories regarding Leo, russ an dtheir guerilla marketing that was so effective?

Equalizer · Apr 19, 2010

Hungry Hungarian said:
I had all of those at one point or another. I'l bet if I go through my stuff i can fnd the Titan Training pretty easily. The program I never see anymore that they did is the Bulgarian Power Burst....it was actually before the book Big Beyond Beleif that had Platz on the cover. Anyone ever see that one anymore? I swear I did that workout as a freshman in college, twice a day and the results were ridiculous!

And now that I remember...it's the one that had our very own Phil Hernon as a spokesperson. My first Intro to Phil and years later here we are! Phil do you have any good inside stories regarding Leo, russ an dtheir guerilla marketing that was so effective?

Is that "ridiculous" in a good way or a bad way?

kingpeon · Apr 19, 2010

Equalizer said:
Is that "ridiculous" in a good way or a bad way?

I'll answer that for him. It's ridiculous in an awesome way. The only way you wouldn't get crazy results with the program is if you didn't eat or sleep enough. They did their homework.

KTT · Apr 19, 2010

Bulgarian Power Burst Training

Bulgarian Power Burst Training

Here it is:

Week 1+2+3

Monday(13-15 reps), Wednesday(10-12 reps), Friday(8-10 reps)

Bench press: 3 sets

Dumbbell Incline Press: 2 sets

Wide grip Chins: 3 sets

T-Bar Rows: 2 sets

Barbell curls: 3 sets

Alternate Dumbbell Curls: 2 sets

Standing Calves: 3 sets

Seated Calf: 2 sets

Note: you do a set of bench presses, take one minute rest, do a set of wide grip chins, take one minute rest and repeat until the allotted three sets are done. You do the same of course with the other exercises. So you end up having two minutes or so rest between each set of each exercise. This allows you to go all out on each set. Do this for all exercises i.e.. alternate Dumbbell Incline Press with T-bar row and Barbell curls with Standing calf Raises. etc.

Note 2: they also suggested to change exercises each work out. Something I personally do not like.

The same holds for all days, of course.

Tuesday(13-15 reps), Thursday(10-12 reps), Saturday(8-10reps)

Squat: 3 sets

Leg Press: 2 sets

Seated Dumbbell Press: 3 sets

Dumbbell Shrugs: 2 sets

Lying EZ Bar Tricep Ext: 3 sets

Pushdowns: 2 sets

Incline Situps: 3 sets

Lying leg raises: 2 sets

Pick weights that make you work HARD but do not go to absolute failure!

Stick with this workout for 3 weeks then change the reps to Mon and Tues 10-12, Wed and Thurs 8-10, Fri and Sat 6-8 for 3 weeks

then drop to Mon and Tues 8-10, Wed and Thurs 6-8, Fri and Sat 4-6 for 3 more weeks

then finish out at 3 weeks of Mon and Tues 6-8, Wed and Thurs 4-6, Fri and Sat 2-4.

Make sure your adding weight as the reps are dropping. Most people find that they can go up at least 5-10 lbs per exercise every week as their body adapts to the frequency and volume.

getbig235 · Apr 19, 2010

Hungry Hungarian said:
I had all of those at one point or another. I'l bet if I go through my stuff i can fnd the Titan Training pretty easily. The program I never see anymore that they did is the Bulgarian Power Burst....it was actually before the book Big Beyond Beleif that had Platz on the cover. Anyone ever see that one anymore? I swear I did that workout as a freshman in college, twice a day and the results were ridiculous!

And now that I remember...it's the one that had our very own Phil Hernon as a spokesperson. My first Intro to Phil and years later here we are! Phil do you have any good inside stories regarding Leo, russ an dtheir guerilla marketing that was so effective?

i had that book as well the BBB was like a shorten BPB program if i remember correctly. i think the training is great if you have the time for it. training 3 times or 2 times per day is hard for most people to get in unless your a kid or you get paid to work lol. i just pulled the book out of my storage room. lol

i have always wondered if if your on and did that program would you grow like a weed. since i was o natural back in my teens??????

Equalizer · Apr 20, 2010

KTT,
That Power Burst Training that you posted looks pretty good. I kind of like the layout better than the BBB program. With the progressive load caused by lowering the rep ranges over time it has some similarities to HSTand even some of Bill Starr's routines with a heavy, medium, and light day throughout the week..

The way the BBB is set up, it kind of looks like it is more for advanced trainees. With the ramping up of volume and then having a deloading phase which probably would not be needed by a beginner or intermediate. I didn't notice it the first time that I read it but that 2nd ramp has you training every bodypart 6 days per week with the 6 day routine.

Hungry Hungarian · Apr 20, 2010

getbig235 said:
i had that book as well the BBB was like a shorten BPB program if i remember correctly. i think the training is great if you have the time for it. training 3 times or 2 times per day is hard for most people to get in unless your a kid or you get paid to work lol. i just pulled the book out of my storage room. lol

i have always wondered if if your on and did that program would you grow like a weed. since i was o natural back in my teens??????

I always wondered too. But hey all other thngs being equal, then I'd imagine the results would have been exponentially better. I think for me, it was the first truly organized, structured workout program that I tracked everything and logged it all in a book so thats probably one reason it was so effective. I grew so fast and so much that guys were asking me what I was on...meanwhile in my my little town I had no clue what a steroid even looked like! I was doing the 3 day while working at my gym and going to school so it worked great for me but I know that after about 8-10 weeks my body was beat on that program...even being only 20 years old. I'm pretty sure I couldnt handle that volume now at all.

lucian · Apr 20, 2010

KTT said:
Bulgarian Power Burst Training

Here it is:

Week 1+2+3

Monday(13-15 reps), Wednesday(10-12 reps), Friday(8-10 reps)

Bench press: 3 sets

Dumbbell Incline Press: 2 sets

Wide grip Chins: 3 sets

T-Bar Rows: 2 sets

Barbell curls: 3 sets

Alternate Dumbbell Curls: 2 sets

Standing Calves: 3 sets

Seated Calf: 2 sets

Note: you do a set of bench presses, take one minute rest, do a set of wide grip chins, take one minute rest and repeat until the allotted three sets are done. You do the same of course with the other exercises. So you end up having two minutes or so rest between each set of each exercise. This allows you to go all out on each set. Do this for all exercises i.e.. alternate Dumbbell Incline Press with T-bar row and Barbell curls with Standing calf Raises. etc.

Note 2: they also suggested to change exercises each work out. Something I personally do not like.

The same holds for all days, of course.

Tuesday(13-15 reps), Thursday(10-12 reps), Saturday(8-10reps)

Squat: 3 sets

Leg Press: 2 sets

Seated Dumbbell Press: 3 sets

Dumbbell Shrugs: 2 sets

Lying EZ Bar Tricep Ext: 3 sets

Pushdowns: 2 sets

Incline Situps: 3 sets

Lying leg raises: 2 sets

Pick weights that make you work HARD but do not go to absolute failure!

Stick with this workout for 3 weeks then change the reps to Mon and Tues 10-12, Wed and Thurs 8-10, Fri and Sat 6-8 for 3 weeks

then drop to Mon and Tues 8-10, Wed and Thurs 6-8, Fri and Sat 4-6 for 3 more weeks

then finish out at 3 weeks of Mon and Tues 6-8, Wed and Thurs 4-6, Fri and Sat 2-4.

Make sure your adding weight as the reps are dropping. Most people find that they can go up at least 5-10 lbs per exercise every week as their body adapts to the frequency and volume.