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Bp meds and cardio timing

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53yrs on trt and propranolol for 5yrs. I take 40mg am/40mg pm. It works like a champ. 110/70 resting rate low 70s. Resting rate has been high my whole life without meds. Workout in mornings after am propranolol dose. Same cardio is 30 points different if I don’t take meds. 100 bpm with meds 130 bpm without. Should I take bp meds after workout to get most out of cardio?
 

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It is probably safer to take it before working working out but do recognize that it may, make it difficult (impossible?) to reach your targeted heart rate 🙁

Understand that the bp meds are there to help you, protect you from the adverse effects of hypertension, before, during, and after exercising? You may have to give up a little to get a little.

But I would have a serious talk with my cardiologist, voice my concerns and my goals and see if we two can come to some sort of safe, logical conclusion.

Maybe a medication change is in order to get what you want safely.

I hope you get this sorted out to your satisfaction.
 

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I worked at a metabolic coach where we calculated ideal cardio heart rate zones through a variation of a stress test. These tests are using a mask to measure input and CO2 output to see what intensity level will burn what form of fuel. Someone exercising on beta blockers can still optimally burn fat at their lower than normal HR. We just knew when we did the testing that we would not get that jump into the higher numbers. The zones i have calculated for these clients were totally different looking than for people not on beta blockers.

That particular posh gym (lifetime) will let you buy the metabolic testing even if you are not a member there. I consider it a good deal if you are doing heart rate based training.
 

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I worked at a metabolic coach where we calculated ideal cardio heart rate zones through a variation of a stress test. These tests are using a mask to measure input and CO2 output to see what intensity level will burn what form of fuel. Someone exercising on beta blockers can still optimally burn fat at their lower than normal HR. We just knew when we did the testing that we would not get that jump into the higher numbers. The zones i have calculated for these clients were totally different looking than for people not on beta blockers.

That particular posh gym (lifetime) will let you buy the metabolic testing even if you are not a member there. I consider it a good deal if you are doing heart rate based training.

taking 8,75mg nebivolol daily, i simply am not able to get my HR above 130-140, no matter how hard i try
i use around 150 as my new "max" and just do my LISS/MISS cardio at around 60-75% of this range, most of the time between 90-125 and it seems to work (atleast i didnt get fatter than in the past when i didnt take nebivolol
 

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many lower norepinephrine and noradrenaline which also severely impacts my workouts, and its hard to get pumps and vascularity, even with cialis and drol sometimes m
 

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53yrs on trt and propranolol for 5yrs. I take 40mg am/40mg pm. It works like a champ. 110/70 resting rate low 70s. Resting rate has been high my whole life without meds. Workout in mornings after am propranolol dose. Same cardio is 30 points different if I don’t take meds. 100 bpm with meds 130 bpm without. Should I take bp meds after workout to get most out of cardio?
For us, nebivolol shits on propanol in every way.

Fucks up workouts less, less impact on body fat loss, also has some neat eNOS effects that earielr beta blockers dont.

Most juiced meathead should try 40/5mg telmisartan/nebivolol for BP and cardiac health
 

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taking 8,75mg nebivolol daily, i simply am not able to get my HR above 130-140, no matter how hard i try
i use around 150 as my new "max" and just do my LISS/MISS cardio at around 60-75% of this range, most of the time between 90-125 and it seems to work (atleast i didnt get fatter than in the past when i didnt take nebivolol

I wish I had some of my old scans with the zones on ace inhibitor clients... Obviously a bit harder to get into anaerobic zone 4 and five, they were tiny and then 3, where the LISS magic happens was narrower than most and percentage wise looked higher since zones 4 and 5 were so small. Cardio after lifting can give a slight boost due to CNS activation.
 

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For us, nebivolol shits on propanol in every way.

Fucks up workouts less, less impact on body fat loss, also has some neat eNOS effects that earielr beta blockers dont.

Most juiced meathead should try 40/5mg telmisartan/nebivolol for BP and cardiac health
Thanks brother I will look into further.
 

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i take everything in the evening i like telmi and nebi cause of its long half life and somewhat superior profile. 40mg/1.25mg for me is sufficient.
 

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