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Bush--State of the Union

im with JJ INSANE 1

if im an enemy to this country then this country can kiss my ass.all this country wants to do is put me in jail and ruin my life because i want to have a better body and love lifting weights.they want to tell me what i can put into my body and will go to any extreme to lie about effects of substances so that they can have even more control of me.where is my freedom?oh........but let me be some fat slob man or woman and i can get all kinds of drugs to lose the weight but god forbid that i want to use steroids to build some muscle and be more healthy.nope,thats illegal.man..................i could go on and on.im against all politics.we have given these lazy ass people way too much control and everyone just sits back and goes with tthe flow.very,very soon we will all wake up one morning and we will have no rights left.then i want to hear from everyone how free we are!!!!!!!!!!
 
with bush in office then john ashcroft will be there too.if john ashcroft is the attorney general believe me we will see an extreme decline in steroids entering into this country.his is on a mission and thinks he is god.and bush gave him all the power he needs to do what ever he wants and get away with it.
later
 
here we go with throwing the baby out

with the bath water..your never going to elect a president who is going to legalize steroids..until kids stop taking them PERIOD! I dont think they should be illegal either, but im not going to say this country sucks..if you dont like it..leave or get over it
 
GW

Like stated above, we all know no Pres. is gonna make it easy for us to take Gear. Now someone was talking about killing, and the oil and no- chemical weapons found, but as a memeber of our Military and having had the opportunity to participate in many "special" events I can say that the public doesnt see or hear about the raids we do on guys plotting against the US. G.Bush has given us a ton or room to work with in allowing us to kick these fuckers ass, and the man as balls to let us do what we do. I dont think theres another guy out there that would have the same results. And peole want to cry about how long its taking to get UBL and Sadam, but in general our operations as a whole are very political friendly. Juggling 1. Kicking Ass and 2. Being Political Mr. Nice guy is not as easy task, but he's done it.
 
hey haze

Thank you for protecting my freedom. I have nothing but respect for you, and anyone in the uniform. GOD bless you and GOD bless America
 
HAZE.......I SECOND THAT...THANKS!

TELL YOUR FRIENDS WE APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR EFFORTS!
 
LATS said:
we can sit here all day and say shit but, the fact is this.
1) job loss has little to do with goverment.. that is a fact..goverment policy takes years to take effect.. the job loss in america is not directly realted to bush.. no one man can cause two million jobs to be lost..jobs are created in the private sector by business.. since nafta passed under the clinton watch, jobs have gone to other countries because the business owners can find cheaper labor..(we know policy takes years to be effective. look at when nafta passed and do the math) so once again..remind me how bush is responsible for lost jobs?!?!? so please tell me what he did specifically that created these lost jobs!
2) as for the weapons of mass destruction..the kay report says that they found the plans and designs for such weapons but, noty the weapons themselves..they also found other articles weapontry that were outlawed in the 1440 proposal by the u.n. iraq is the size of california.. most of it desert.. they could be buried anywhere.. remember just two weeks ago, while digging, polish troops found twenty artillery shells.. out of no where..so, it has been only 8 months.. lets see what they find..dr kay said that he would need at least a year with the circumstances he faces..
3) lets not also forget that the u.n. agreed that iraq had weapons of wmd's.. (hell, even france agreed that he had them)so it was not bush "putting out a false report" that got this thing stated..president clinton, interviewed after bush's first state of the union, stated that he felt that iraq had weapons of mass destruction judging by the evidence given ti him.. in 1998 clinton advisors had a plan to oust saddam by force and had a policy of regime change in iraq..military jets were fired upon a average of three times a day when flying in the no fly zone.. that is a fact and a act of war..clinton, who i am sure you liked, admitted to plans to oust saddam by force.. he did not..bush, given the evidence the others had acted..
4)ROLLING BLACKOUTS ARE NOW BUSH'S FAULT?? bro, you are really stretching..they had rolling black outs in england too..but, i suppose that is bush's fault too..
5) children sleeping in alleys?? that has been going on since the great depression.. and now it is bush's fault?? come on jj, you are smarter than that..
6) i lost one of my business' in 2003..is that bush's fault too?? i dont think so..
the plain and simple matter of the facts jj is that you hate bush and want to blame everything on him.. even the most umrealistic things you want him to be responsible for..where were you when clinton was in office?? i did not see you complaining of children sleeping in alleys then..i did not see you complaining of service men being killed in somalia, after a failed capture attempt of a warlord.. then two days later, clinton makes the same troops escort the same warlord to safety under their "deal".. i did not see you complaining of political corruption during his stay in office..also..HOLES IN THE ROADS?? that is also bush's fault?? you mean your local goverment has no say in that?? give me a break..
dick morris, the political advisor of bill clinton one time said "the economy goes up then goes down. it is the way it will also be.. if your lucky you get in on the upswing and take credit for it" now, bush sees the economy in the tank and gives a tax cut..under his tax cut 2 million low income people do not even pay taxes..now the econmy is stating to grow again.. 3rd quarter was the biggest growth in twenty years..where are the jobs?? they are going over seas..which again, passed under clinton's watch (nafta) can bush do anything to bring them back?? probably not..but, again, i do not see you blaming clinton..i take it from your post that you are a liberal or the "blame bush first crowd"..that is fine.. but, next time you want to try and make a point, leave the potholes, and rolling blackout, and him being a murderer crap out of the post..it does not help your cause any..if your gonna complain about the state of the union, then you must complain all the time.. not just when a president you hate is in office.. the complaint then losses some creditabilty...and guys , once again, bush was addressing the use of steroids in professional sports and that it is a bad "influence" on impressionable teenagers..did he lie?? no.. teenage roid use is on the rise..i think we all agree that teenagers using gear is a bad idea..so lets not go over board.. considering that bonds and a few others were called in for questioning and he was a owner of a baseball team.. it was bound to happen before he addressed it.. lets not make it any bigger than what it was.. most of america has forgotten about it by now..

Lats,
I am not saying its Bush's "fault" there are children starving and homeless people everywhere.... what i am saying is the useless waste of 87 billion dollars on this bullshit oil war would have been better spent on OUR country.
They are stretching when they bla, bla, bla about the Key report. Its to cover there ass. So what they have "papers and plans". They have NO WMD. NONE.
MANY, MANY, MANY other... and alot ruthless countries DO have and admit it. Why not blow them all to hell? No oil. Thats why.
Now... Holes in the roads... another way the "space bullshit and war bullshit" money could be spent in OUR country.
Health care... WE NEED IT allot more then we need to "invade" a useless planet like Mars.
Somalia.... i totally disagree with it also. Money could have helped the US just as well.
Who pays for all this? TAX PAYERS. Who are the tax payers? The people of the United States... So SPEND IT HERE. Damn, its not a hard concept to understand.
When we have NO more problems.. then help others.
If you mother was sick... and some fucker in Africa was sick and needed financial help. Who would you help? Your mother i hope. In other words... Your HOME.
I can argue this until i am cold, blue and dead.... facts are facts.
Our government WASTES money on bullshit. Our money.
How is the president not responsible for Jobs? If he is not, then why does the first thing out of his mouth on every speech "our economy is picking up.. we are creating more jobs" .. hell i can lie also. Doesn’t mean its true. Statistics are facts... facts are he is full of shit.
JJ
 
Re: HAZE.......I SECOND THAT...THANKS!

JETHRO TULL said:
TELL YOUR FRIENDS WE APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR EFFORTS!

Yeah, bro.. i commend anyone who "fights" for this country... but you are just a "pawn" in a bullshit Oil war.
I do give anyone who protects our country a big thumbs up... but if you went to Iraq, YOU HAD NO CHOICE.
If you are in the military and do not go... then guess what? YOU GO TO JAIL. The same place us "steroid addicts" go! The same place a crack dealer goes. The same place a murderer goes. JAIL!

So... in short.. thanks for all the service men and women who defend our country, but i am sorry that 500+ (21 so far from SUICIDE) had to die for OIL.
Was that a choice? Nope... Bush picked the fight, THEY FOUGHT IT.
If Bush had to run his punk ass around that shit hole he would have never raided them.
But... the more OUR SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN kick Iraqs ass... the fatter his Oil filled pockets get.
Its very simple.
Also... FUCK THE PATRIOT ACT.
I happen to like my RIGHTS. Something the patriot act rips right from OUR lives.
Legalized communism ... nothing more.

JJ
 
I'm going to say this and shut up.

Anyone who know's anything about economics knows that you don't change the economy overnight. We just came out of WAY TOO MANY years of liberal politics (Clinton). The liberal's fix is more programs (i.e., government) and of course more money (as in "taxes" to operate those programs). Government DOES NOT PUT money into the economy, it only takes it out. There are necessary services that government provides: police, fire, armed services.

We need to redirect that money into our economy and let FREEDOM recover our economy. The person taking the chances at running a business SHOULD be rewarded with tax credits for providing job opportunities to those that work. If you give the worker-bees the tax credits and ream the business owners - THERE'LL BE NO JOBS!

Bush Sr was just begiining to get the country back on their feet eceonomically - it didn't happen during his reign, hit actually occured during Clinton, And guess who got the credit?!?!? It goes to hell on Clinton (much worse that before) and Bush Jr steps in to correct it. He will probably get voted out and a liberal in, who'll then get the credit!

xcel
 
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AMEN XCEL... jj, you ask what is so hard to understand.. i ask you the same.. you say that it was about oil.. if oil was our concern than we could have taken it in the first iraq war.. we did not..the oil crap holds no water and until we we take it then that statement holds no merit. it is pure speculation on your part.
jj, it is pure economics.. all economists will tell yo that job loss is not the presidents fault.. i defy you to tell me one thing bush did that caused the loss of jobs.. no bill was passed (which could not take effect this soon anyway) and then i defy you to tell me what clinton did that helped the economy be as strong as it was.. you can not because it does not exist.. the economy is its own entity and is governed by no one..it ebbs and flows..the goverment can direct funds into the market as xcel said but, it takes years to work.. if the democrats make it into office, they will pawn off the bad jobs to bush and wait for it to climb on its own..as i said, no one man is responsible for job loss. the worst thing again, was nafta.. it sent jobs over seas and this is what you are seeing now..unless nafta is reversed, jobs will continue to go overseas. .. and nafta will not be overturned..
now, all you have to do is stay on the internet and find the economy stats from the last two years of clinton's stay in office.. it will show you as plain as day that the economy was starting to go downhill and he was warned by his advisors.. dick morris, clintons advisor was quoted as saying that he told bill to stay out of the country for the last couple of months because he knew that the questions were going to be coming about the waining economy..clinton then took many trips the last three months and did no interviews.. morris actually laughed about this and said "bill made a pact with the devil.. he got in when the getting was good and he got out in the nick of time"...and that was a quote from his advisor...bush inherited a outhouse when he got in..the warning signs were there..the economy starts to tank and the united states gets attacked.. regardless of your bias, he has done a good job given the state of the nation at that time..
as for the patriot act.. look , we are all big boys here and the know the risks we take in partaking in the hobby that we have.. if you do nothing illegal, then you have nothing to worry about with the patriot act..we can either quit and not do gear anymore or we can take or chances..most of us will continue to take our chances..
 
My Take

I don't really care for Bush.
All politicians are LIARS to the public! (but then again who hasn't?)
I don't need protected from myself.
I do think the USA spends entirely too much money outside of our very own country. Sure it's good to be compasionate, nice and all, but always start with home first.
There ARE too many lazy americans that now EXPECT things to be handed to them. Get off your fat ass and start at the bottom again if you have to! Don't live above your means, which I guess is the "norm" now.
EDUCATE THE CHILDREN! That is the solution to a better USA.
Make the parents responsible for thier children! No one wants to take the blame for thier kids decisions, but they had to learn it somewhere.
AND IF YOU TELL ME THEY LEARNED IT FROM TV, THEN YOU ARE STILL TO BLAME FOR NOT CORRECTING THIER MISDIRECTION, MISINFORMATION.
As far as drugs, I still stand by my one powerful fact......
2 KNOWN KILLERS ARE CIGARETTES AND ALCOHOL! BOTH LEGAL!
They affect not only the user, but those around them too.
 
LATS said:
AMEN XCEL... jj, you ask what is so hard to understand.. i ask you the same.. you say that it was about oil.. if oil was our concern than we could have taken it in the first iraq war.. we did not."

What good is all that Oil without a pipeline out of the country?... Enter: Afghanistan.
Excuse: Osama Bin Ladan
Reason: Terrorism
First war? No Afghanistan

Like i said... very simple

JJ
 
once again jj, speculation on your part..since none of the other points on my last thread was dealt with, i am done with this thread..
 
..

politics brought to forum again...

anyone watch Comedy Central tonight, its very hard to vote for him after eveing seeing them poitn out all the big points of his empty promises,.

i thought it was funny they said valentino was kicked out after bush's steroid comment and showed him getting taken out by cuffs..
 
i heard this the other day

If your in your 20's and are not a liberal you have no compassion
if your in your 30's and are not a republican then you have no brains.
if your in your 40's and not a conservative then there is no hope for you, just shoot yourself ,and dont waste money on a shrink!:D :p

the bottom line is this, how can ANYONE who works for a living be a democrat!:rolleyes:

The whole roar of the 90's was thanks to Ronald Reagan.(the corporate tax cut which was at 70%!)..Clinton just road the tidal wave created by the Republicans

The middle east thing began with Jimmy Carter, and the fall of the shaw of Iran..(fucking liberal coward)

The last 50 yrs the congress has been run by Liberals and look at the state of our schools etc.

The war for oil bullshit is just that BULLSHIT, France and Russia did not want to goto war "FOR OIL!" they had billions in oil contracts with Saddam. Now GW shoved it up there grey poupon asses. The french are pathetic (I'm a french cajun too) They have a history of rolling over, King Charles II (the Bald) paid the Vickings 6 tons of gold and silver in order to keep the saxons from kicking there asses. Hitler walked right in to paris, and these fucks are supporting the "WAR for OIL" propaganda!! AMAZING!:mad:
 
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one more thing and then i will shut up too!

the united states is acting like a big bully of the world.they say that we(USA) can have all these nukes and weapons but you cant.well..................what always happens to a bully????????????someone comes along and kicks the shit out of him.our day is coming very soon that someone says FU to the USA.maybe its north korea who knows but someone will fight back with more then what saddam had.and a hell of alot more then what bin laden did too.i applaud the men and woman who are sent to die for this country but does anyone stop think why people hate the united states so much.we(government)are nothing but bullies telling people what they can and cant do in THIER own countries.
later
 
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Now... you might think that all this shit is just a "conspiracy" but i ask you this... EXPLAIN it?
Tell me exactly HOW those building could have fallen THAT perfect without the help of "our friendly government" adding a little needed assurance in the bottom of each building.
Also... the big "Anthrax" scare. What a crock of SHIT.
What was the ONLY antibiotic to stop anthrax? CIPRO!
(FACT)... Who owns over 50% of the company that has the Cipro patent? G. BUSH SENIOR. Wonder how much money he made off that shit?

Think about it people... this government will & HAS brain washed most of the public.
I know allot of you are going to give me hell over this thread, and i honestly do not want to argue.
I 100% respect your opinions and view.. i have mine as well. All i am asking is to open your mind a little and ask your self.
For BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars and even more for POWER ... do you honestly think they "wouldnt" do anything to get it? The government is , for the most part... untouchable. They control the media, t.v. newspapers... its all cencored. It doesnt matter if they do EVERYTHING out in plain site, we cant do anything about it.... but covering it up will just make them even more profitable.
JJ
 
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NuTsOe said:
I never liked that guy,I dont respect him as a person or the president of the United States,any man that runs from the draft but sends thousands off to war doesnt deserve to run this country
He didn't run from the draft bro, it was Bill Clinton who ran from the draft and it was Al Gore who got taken out of the war because he wanted to go be a preacher and dropped out of school. By the way Bush was a pilot in the military reserves.
 
jj, this is getting sad.. first off, all the accusations you bring are again, pure speculation.. any points about the economy you bring into this as bush's fault are easily refuted , so you move on to other conspiracys..xcel and i both refuted your claim about job loss ect and then you come up with something else.. now you bring up the 9/11 collapse and how we engineered the buildings to fall.. lets take a look at what you are believeing.
1) you think that it is good reporting?? the info on the building collapse you got has come from the BBC HORIZON.. not exactly know for fair reporting when it comes to bush and also, do not confuse it with the official BBC..lets just say it is more like the NATIONAL ENQUIRER when it comes to reporting this crap.
2) i take it you do not know much about building design.. all buildings past a certain heigth are DESIGNED TO COLLAPSE UPON THEMSELVES To PREVENT DAMAGE FROM OCCURING AROUND THEM.. all you had to do was stay on the web and look up building design and engineering.. they are designed that way.. once the trade towers were built they were built to lean at 3-5 degrees then collapse upon themselves for at that lean they are not stable anymore..a 3 dgree lean is not much and the buiolding will still collapse upon it self..
3) the trade towers were hit on 9/11..the trade towers were built long before the attack.. so in your theory, the usa knew many many years before that they were going to attack the world trade center with airplanes so, they made the building to collapse to bring further loss of life ect..how exactly, does that happen considering that the attackers only had a little over a year to pull it off.?? if not, when did they send people in to modify the design with out anyone knowing.. i do not know if you know this but, a building that large can not be modified at all with out considerable work which includes trucks , various large machinery and a lot of workers..i suppose no one saw a thing??
4) with everything that had to be done to make your theory and theirs plausible, they would have had a ton of people know about it and contribute.. after all, you are changing the structure of a huge building.. yet, no one has talked or said a word.. not even people who worked there who would have to of seen it going on.. spooky..:rolleyes:
5) once gain, your theory and theirs makes no sence since it is designed to collapse.. that is not hard to look up.. hell, when the trade towers were still on fire, they had a engineer talking about the design to collapse upon itself so as to prevent death and damage around it.. and he was not the only one who the news was talking to that confirmed this while the buildings were still up..if you remember the HBO special about the firemen and the crews that went into the buildings, you even hear the fire chief state that the building is starting to lean and that it will collapse upon itself eventually..LIKE I SAID, ALL YOU NEEDED TO DO WAS LOOK UP ANTHING ABOUT BUILDING DESIGN AND IT WILL TELL YOU HOW THEY COLLAPSE..
6)HOW IN THE HELL DID THIS GUY GET A LOOK AT BUSH'S DIARY? he states that he knows what bush wrote in his diary about 9/11..give me a fricking break.. no one but bush knows what is in his diary and for him to say he does is ridiculous..and if bush did know that it was going to happen, do you think he would write it down?!?!?!?
i could sit here all day and refute conspiracy theorys jj. i provide you with facts, you come back with conspiracys and do not address the facts i/we give you after i /we make a statement refuting it.. so we might as well start making shit up if that is how you want to play..this is rediculous and beyond sad that you buy into that shit with no proof.. all someone has to do is make up shit and make it sound good, and some will buy into it because they hate bush..if you remember , their were many theories about clinton too. some said he had many people killed and even named them and why he did it..it was bullshit and i even knew it.. hell i hated the man so, i would have loved to belive it but, common sense tells ya it is bullshit..if that many people knew about all the shit you are stating, they would have come forward by now.. that many people can not keep a secret that long.. especially of that magnatude..
so in closing, if i were you , i would stop espousing these lame and easily refuted conspiracy theories.. so far you have not given one that i/we could not refute with facts..not theories like you are espousing..:rolleyes:
 
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I GUESS THAT CLEARS UP ALL THAT B.S.

GOOD POST, LATS.

EXCELBEYOND: FUNNY, I'VE NEVER HAD TROUBLE FINDING A JOB EITHER! I GOT TO JOB FAIRS AND THERE HAPPENS TO BE A NATIONWIDE SHORTAGE IN MANY AREAS.....SUCH AS TEACHING. I HAD 15 OFFERS AT MY LAST JOB FAIR. NOTHING IS STOPPING ANYONE FROM GETTING A STUDENT LOAN...GETTING A DEGREE AND FINDING WORK. THAT'S BEEN MY EXPIRIENCE. I THOUGHT WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY WAS CORRECT AS WELL.

WE ALL HAVE OPINIONS AND IT'S GOOD TO HASH THINGS OUT IN ORDER TO SEE WHERE THE TRUTH LIES. :D
 

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