Calories needed to enable me to grow and get lean together?

[bigdog123]

Decided I have had enough of pushing to get heavier all the time. Get fatter and heavier, then diet, get heavy, then diet and so on. Flucuate between 215and 240.

Currently I`m 225 and fairly lean (9-10%) - I am 5`8

Thinking of eating about 3,800 clean calories per day - using 50mcg t3 daily and 1g of test e per week and going with just that. Cardio twice per week - 40 mins per time. Weights, three times per week.

Diet to look as follows:

100g whey and 100g oats in water, 10 fish oils
200g chicken and 100g rice, 10ml olive oil
100g whey and 100g oats
6 whole eggs on 2 slices wholemeal toast
100g whey and 100g oats

Work is so hectic I can only get 2, maybe 3 whole meals in each day.

I usually bulk on 5,300 but do gain some fat and look watery - I am wanting to hang around 225 and really tighten up but stay full.

Thanks!

 

[liftalot79]

Well First

I would go down in test just alittle, I don't think you would lose any muscle mass especially if your doing cardio 2days a week.

What happens if you Up the Cardio do you lean out more.

I take a homemade cap that has 50mg clomid/50mg proviron in it. It takes all the water and makes me lean out while I'm on alot of test. Maybe something like that would help.

Big dog could you get a George forman into your work and maybe cook a steak or burger? Do you like fish? Your diet looks better than mine but fish oil desn't take place of a good filet.

 

[tkav1980]

Decided I have had enough of pushing to get heavier all the time. Get fatter and heavier, then diet, get heavy, then diet and so on. Flucuate between 215and 240.

Currently I`m 225 and fairly lean (9-10%) - I am 5`8

Thinking of eating about 3,800 clean calories per day - using 50mcg t3 daily and 1g of test e per week and going with just that. Cardio twice per week - 40 mins per time. Weights, three times per week.

Diet to look as follows:

100g whey and 100g oats in water, 10 fish oils
200g chicken and 100g rice, 10ml olive oil
100g whey and 100g oats
6 whole eggs on 2 slices wholemeal toast
100g whey and 100g oats

Work is so hectic I can only get 2, maybe 3 whole meals in each day.

I usually bulk on 5,300 but do gain some fat and look watery - I am wanting to hang around 225 and really tighten up but stay full.

Thanks!

What if you 5300 came from different food sources? Split protien and carbs, and protien and fats into different meals, Keeping the bulk of Pro/ carb meals around the times you train, Cut off carbs 2 meals after training, and early morning cardio should do the trick.
pro/fat meals, cut out the carb source, replace with veggies.

im about the same size as you are with alittle higher BF% im probably around 12-15% If i had to guess, at 5'7" 228 lbs.

That helped me. oh and red meat... alot of red meat.