Childrens Forum on PM/a concerned post

[angel]

I would like to discuss putting a childrens forum on PM. These kids have no reason to read or lurk or post on this board. I have read shit recently which indicates there are teens on here. Lot's of them. We teach them to use drugs as a shortcut. All they see is drugs = shortcut to size.

I know there are a lot of caring wonderful folks on this board, I feel ya'. AND

Hannah Montana could come on this board
and tap an overseas sponsor for some Primo for God's sake.

If she (or any celeb) did and got caught it would be the end of PM forever, the publicity would kill us. They would have all our emails and IP addys. We need to lower our profile before we get the smackdown. get these kids off here.

Be PROFESSIONAL MUSCLE !

A sixteen year old can order "supplements" on here or experiment on themselves with Reasearch chems.
Children are kids under 21.

You could put in a children's forum when anyone posts something childish. Like time out. That's for anyone.
That would be fun.

The kid's board would be 21 and under. Nutrition guidance
and weights and stuff. Pros guiding kids.

Enforce it with a mandatory credit card payment of $5 a year to offset losses.

I know you Mods won't even try it because it would make all the sponsors mad and cut into profits.

We all say we love kids yet we provide a place where they can hurt themselves.

We'll see if this post sees the light of day.

Fight for me Dad!

ANGEL

 

[richie34]

i must be niave i didnt even realise we had any teens here! christ it should be no under 18s at least imo. gear or no gear, this is somewhere for adults to come and chat and share ideas not stupid kids wanting easy shortcuts and making imature posts and as you say get the place shut down although i dont think it realy will come to that.

 

[Ironraider]

Damn, our cover is blown. I thought they were all over at BB.com

 

[kcbuilder]

I agree completly!!!

In the very short time I have been a member of this board, I have already began to watch it go downhill due to childish posts and threads.

I have not posted here in a few days simply because I an on the brink of making the decision that this is not going to change.

I dont understand why certain members are allowed to be on the board constantly posting childish questions that make no sense. Hell a few of these threads are still alive and IMO at the very least they should be moved to the beginners forum.

I dont get it...

I dont compete, but do take bodybuilding very seriously. This is not a place for kids.

It needs to be said that gear is not the answer for the young. There should be a sticky noting the extreme dangers aas poses to our youths. Stunting growth, infertility, perm hormone system damage, higher risks of injury to joints and tendons, etc.

It is because of the kids who want a "shortcut" that gives aas a bad name. We have the responsibility of making sure these kids KNOW that aas is far more dangerous to them at their age than it is to the older folks. It is disgusting to think that we may be helping kids to know how to use aas when it could very easily make them infertile, or stop their natural growth permantly. We are helping them to RUIN THEIR LIVES!!!

The saddest part is this thread will most likely get deleted.

I am fine with going elsewhere as there are thousands of other boards, I just thought this one was different.

 

[mike1107]

even if there was an option that wouldn't allow them to post or read on the forums, when you register you just have to put a birth date that makes you appear as older than 21 and there you go

its not about being more or less than 21 its about maturity .. I started roids way before I was 21

 

[mature muscle]

even if there was an option that wouldn't allow them to post or read on the forums, when you register you just have to put a birth date that makes you appear as older than 21 and there you go

its not about being more or less than 21 its about maturity .. I started roids way before I was 21

your rite mike even if big-a charged a small fee to join kids today also have credit cards it would be almost imposable to stop. i do agree with angel on this i have noticed a big change in the last six months or so. and you can see that a lot of the vets that were on here win i joined no longer post.

 

[BOOMSHAKER]

Angel, I hear yah, and it's a good idea. Seriously. But not to sure how it would go over with LE. First thing they would say is we are advocating roids to children. As if we haven't heard that too many times now. Even though it's total bull shit. BETTER if you ask me would be to start a "sub-board" with no connection to this one for teens who want to ask questions and NOT have that board filled with the same "sponsors" as here. But rather other types of sponsors that promote good quality life of living and natural strength gains for teens.


(just a thought though)

 

[richie34]

damn mike i trained well over ten years before taking anything , then again if i had to do it all again i might consider not being quite so hard on myself! lol its a pity for these young kids as i think training natural builds character as you learn to be more patient and consistant with everything out of nescessity, must be getting old lol. i noticed a lack of quality posts and cant wait everytime phil or emeric start new posts or join in! i know i dont add much myself at the end of the day but some of these posts should be in a beginner forum imho.

 

[kcbuilder]

.. I started roids way before I was 21

This is exactly the type of comments that make a teen think "Hey, he's a moderator and started early, it must be okay for me too."

As a moderator you are infact looked at in a different light, you are indeed a rolemodel to these teens that read this board. It is a shame that you openly condone the use of AAS to these young impressionable youths.

Is having a baby section the answer? no

Every teen I know thinks their a big boy, and will not acknowledge that they have anything to learn.

What we need to do as adults and rolemodels is discourage the use of AAS to these young people until their bodies develop more natrually.

There are indeed very serious reasons why AAS should not be used by teens. Will it kill them? no But it does pose many other negative consequenses to their future and how their bodies develop.

I'm not against a mid 20's guy who has been training and has reached certain limits looking to AAS to move forward, but a 17 year old who thinks that AAS is a way for him to pack on some extra pounds real quick is, and will always be a BAD IDEA!!!!!

I just think we need to take some responsibility for teaching these youths the proper way to get where thet want to go with out fucking themselves up permantly.

Mike sorry to pick on your comment, there's nothing wrong with speaking the truth and telling it like it is, but we as adults simply need to choose our words and think about how they may be perceived by those who look up to us.

My 2 pennies....

 

[617ricky]

There should not be a children's section on here.. That would be something that could get this place shut down, since we'd be acknowledging and condoning minors being on here.. There are sites out there for kids, but this absolutely should not be one of them, not when he have a frigging AAS sponsors list LOL.. It should be kept as an adult only site, but either way teens can obviously get on here, nothing we can do about it.

 

[SacToSD]

Your idea sounds good on paper, but I think that we really need to enforce non-stupidity/underage use ourselves. Being personally responsible -- as members of this board -- to prevent underage AAS use is something all of us should do. People do this already... we usually shoot down bad posts, tell kids not to use, and do other things to discourage underage usage. I know I have, many many times on different boards. If you did set up a kids forum, then that might encourage them to stick around, and they'd eventually get curious and start trying to imitate the pros. If we make them unwelcome and discourage their use of AAS, then that might be more effective than giving them a safe room. Besides, when's the last time you saw a post like "what's up I'm gonna pin 1 gram of tren per week to get ready for football tryouts cause my bro said it was a good idea" get any kind of response? The mods usually delete these posts asap. I would think that there are more serious issues effecting teens, also. Drugs, pregnancy, emotional issues, etc are extremely common in young people. Our educational system, "the war on drugs," counseling, parents, etc that acts to prevent young people from making poor decisions is largely ineffective. What makes you think that we'd be able to stop some kid from picking up AAS?

 

[james caan]

i am ashamed to say this, but many times ive had to adjust my personal usage details, for fear of youngsters thinking that because i use 1k mg per week and weigh 275, he should do the same to reach that level. knowing i had no one to turn to when i made that leap, and thinking of all the mistakes i made, i try to help others avoid these mistakes. it doesnt work a lot of times, if a 19 yo wants to do a gram a week, nothing you say will change that. but maybe my advice will stop that one kid from using gear before they need to. here on pm, i see i am amongst men, and women with many yrs of exp under their belts, so i feel more at ease to say im using this or that. over at another board, i posted up on my suspension use, and by that night i had 10 pm's asking where to get some, how much weight will i gain, how many shots a week, why it hurts, etc. obviously a vet wouldnt ask such questions. but i try to be understanding because i know that when i got on the net, i already had some yrs of usage, so i didnt have any newbee questions. these younger guys are using these sites for info, but you have to be very careful what advice you do/dont give. i agree with mike, you really dont know how old anybody is, how many times in the past did we find out a so called vet/source, was just some young college kid, or on the flip side some old man that hasnt touched a weight in his life. the only way we can avoid some of the issues you see on bb.com, is to police this board, and try to get out any one we can sense is way too young to be here. its not an easy thing to do, but im sure no one here wants what went down on bb.com, to go down here.

 

[machola]

This is exactly the type of comments that make a teen think "Hey, he's a moderator and started early, it must be okay for me too."

As a moderator you are infact looked at in a different light, you are indeed a rolemodel to these teens that read this board. It is a shame that you openly condone the use of AAS to these young impressionable youths.

not a shame. if they didn't here it from him they'd here how arnold started at 15 yrs old or whatever. you can't hide the truth. they're smarter than that. this is not an elementary school. we can talk real here. as for a children's section, i don't think kids belong here but there is no way to stop them from coming

 

[mike1107]

This is exactly the type of comments that make a teen think "Hey, he's a moderator and started early, it must be okay for me too."

As a moderator you are infact looked at in a different light, you are indeed a rolemodel to these teens that read this board. It is a shame that you openly condone the use of AAS to these young impressionable youths.

Is having a baby section the answer? no

Every teen I know thinks their a big boy, and will not acknowledge that they have anything to learn.

What we need to do as adults and rolemodels is discourage the use of AAS to these young people until their bodies develop more natrually.

There are indeed very serious reasons why AAS should not be used by teens. Will it kill them? no But it does pose many other negative consequenses to their future and how their bodies develop.

I'm not against a mid 20's guy who has been training and has reached certain limits looking to AAS to move forward, but a 17 year old who thinks that AAS is a way for him to pack on some extra pounds real quick is, and will always be a BAD IDEA!!!!!

I just think we need to take some responsibility for teaching these youths the proper way to get where thet want to go with out fucking themselves up permantly.

Mike sorry to pick on your comment, there's nothing wrong with speaking the truth and telling it like it is, but we as adults simply need to choose our words and think about how they may be perceived by those who look up to us.

My 2 pennies....

Not to kiss my own ass but I didnt wait to be 21 to be mature

At 17-18 I was working going to school paying my own food my gas and blah blah blah so I dont see how and why I someone with proper education and who is 18 can't use roids

Do I say its a good thing to start at 15 or do I encourage it ? no way, for physiological reason first of all

But wait 21 ? not needed in my opinion

just my 02

 

[mike1107]

but a 17 year old who thinks that AAS is a way for him to pack on some extra pounds real quick is, and will always be a BAD IDEA!!!!!

why ? I think it's related to individual cases, not being 17 or 25 or 35

some people are dumb and will never know how to use AAS properly and what they can do to their bodies even at 35 while some will be able to learn and add correct principles at a much younger age

 

[617ricky]

Who knows what kind of damage some uneducated 17 year old is gonna do to their body that's not even finished developing yet.. If you used gear at 17 then so be it, but don't condone it man, that's kind of ridiculous.

 

[ENraged]

why ? I think it's related to individual cases, not being 17 or 25 or 35

some people are dumb and will never know how to use AAS properly and what they can do to their bodies even at 35 while some will be able to learn and add correct principles at a much younger age

I was under the impression that the growth plates at 18 are slight not completely closed and abusing steriods can cause premature plate closure?

Edit: just did a quick search and according to MD's bone growth can still take place up until 25

 

[Iceman1800]

I disagree. To me this is the same as censoring tv shows or blaming video games for kid's behavior. I am a parent and it is my sole responsibility to monitor what my kids do, not a board moderator, school teacher or anyone else. I am my kid's role model as are all parents. People need to stop looking for everyone else to do their jobs......

 

[jm425]

I'm going to say that MOST 17 year olds aren't ready for aas. IMO, a lot of research needs to be done and also, dedication to nutrition and training are the utmost important factors when taking that next step. There aren't too many 17 year olds that have the dedication nor sufficient knowledge beforehand to take that next step. Most of them are too busy chasing tail or going out and partying. They use aas as an excuse for their shitty diets and even shittier training routines. This is my opinion on this matter. Also, I don't think our board needs a children's section. That's what bbing.com is for.

 

[ENraged]

I disagree. To me this is the same as censoring tv shows or blaming video games for kid's behavior. I am a parent and it is my sole responsibility to monitor what my kids do, not a board moderator, school teacher or anyone else. I am my kid's role model as are all parents. People need to stop looking for everyone else to do their jobs......

This is all fine and well until an unsupervised teen screws up and points fingers at the boards for how they obtained the knowledge and possible sources.

We aren't giving instruction on how to play grand theft auto here