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cleaning andro receptors ?

Ivanko

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How often do you guys feel the need to "clean out" your receptors? Do you come off completely or go on a TRT dosage? Do you run GH or anything else that's not an androgen durring the this time?
 

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sweep first then mop!

what does it mean to 'clean out' your receptors...I'm curious what you think it means.
 

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In one big a's threads he mentions one of the only reasons to come off would be if your receptors become saturated. Ive heard mixed ideas about weather long cycles upgrade or downgrade receptor sensitivity.. So I guess cleaning out would mean giving your body a break from supra levels of test and increasing your body's receptiveness for when you go back on? I dunno that could all be bullshit, just want to get opinions on it
 

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If I'm not mistaken, l-carnitine-tartrate should help with the receptors.
 

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The receptors don't downregulate.
Gains stop for other reasons.... SHBG elevated, cortisol supressed too long, etc.
You can't keep gaining forever or we'd all be 1,000 lbs.

Just because you aren't growing anymore doesn't mean the drugs aren't working..... otherwise side effects would stop along with the gains.
 

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^ AAS lowers SHBG actually. And upregulates AR. more androgen receptors are expressed as a result of AAS usage basically.

but I get what you're talking about 'cleaning out' - you mean like a cruise to bring down the effects of high cycle dosages I'm guessing.

I think its a smart idea. Maybe time on = cruise is a safe idea

it all comes down to bloodwork I suppose
 

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yea that is pretty much one of the main points of cruising. You cruise at a lower dose so that your body is able to make gains again once you get on another blast or cycle
 

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^ AAS lowers SHBG actually. And upregulates AR. more androgen receptors are expressed as a result of AAS usage basically.

but I get what you're talking about 'cleaning out' - you mean like a cruise to bring down the effects of high cycle dosages I'm guessing.

I think its a smart idea. Maybe time on = cruise is a safe idea

it all comes down to bloodwork I suppose
Not exactly true... SHBG is significantly increased about 8-10 weeks into a cycle I remember reading this in a study. This study is also backed up by bro logic as 8-12 weeks has been the standard cycle time for quite a while as most guys quit gaining around that time frame. Although I think the same study said that after 20 or so weeks SHBG began to come back down.
 

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^ maybe you are confusing SHBG with myostatin? :)
Now that you mention it I think you are right :eek:

Ha I guess I will have to keep links to these studies so I dont put my foot in my mouth again.
 

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Androgen Receptors are renewed over and over again on a daily basis based on their half-life so you cannot 'clean them' as the ones that are there and have not yet formed a hormone/receptor complex are already new and fresh.
 

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