Had an old friend swear by Helios. I don't know if you can still get them. Clen, yohimbe, and maybe something for cramping. Said it was the best way to hit fat deposits that didn't have a lot of blood supply....and pinning took care of that.
But he would multi-inject his entire lower torso....then go cut grass, run the neighborhood, etc.
Be a sweaty mess.
Me on the other hand....a cup of strong coffee and I can feel my hands tingle or even Trimble!
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