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client/friend of mine 2 weeks out from first natty show

Big Dave Smith

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This is Steve. He's one of those gym kids/guys that never knew the difference between a cable crossover and an incline press. He had no knowledge of protein, macros, training splits, etc. We started working together 14 weeks ago for his MMA training. 12 weeks out from the Philly Natural (this weekend), he randomly saw an ad for the Philly Natural and asked "Hey man, you think I can do this bodybuilding show on the wall?"... so we went with it.

Please keep in mind that he still doesn't understand much of what I give him. He just trains and eats like the papers I give him say. He still needs back and leg thickness, but that'll come over more time. Right now he's just looking to do the novice class this weekend and have fun.

His only supplements are whey isolate, BCAAs, and some vitamins. No fat burners.
 
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Looks really lean and dry. Congrats. Give him some posing tips and he should have a blast at his first show. KEep us posted on how he does.
 
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Pretty good genetics from what I can see.

Good conditioning too... good job with him.
 
Thanks! His weight on keto has been around 150-155lbs. The goal is to get him up in weight after the show and have him fight at 170.
 
If he is this lean and is in the 150 range why not fight 155? Wouldn't that make more sense. I mean there are some guys that cut 20lbs just to make weight. He is already there.
 
What do the other guys think about you taking pics of a guy flexing in his underwear in the locker room?

:spor:-smi

lol (I'm just being sarcastic bro. Don't hunt me down or anything.)
 
Big Dave, the kid has good genetics and I hope you continue to work with him and keep him natural, good job on his diet and seems like you have him dialed in. Keep us posted on how he does and more pictures of him as he gets closer to the show.
 
Why the hell do you have this skinny bastard on A KETO DIET??!

This is a pic I took yesterday at my office, I haven't even started adding cardio yet and my carbohydrate intake is around 200-300grams.
 

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GEEEEEBUS Erstling just can it already!! Tell you what, get a few pros in good shape for a smaller pro show. Actually how about this, get ANYONE (yourself not included) in shape for a show and have them win ANYTHING (any class), and maybe then you can continue your tirade against the keto diet. You fail to contribute positively to discussion. You have no idea what this guy looked like when he started or anything of this matter. From what I can tell Dave did a great job of getting an incredibly green competitor into great condition in a short period of time.
 
Possible candidate for the biggest tool on the site (not in a good way)

Why the hell do you have this skinny bastard on A KETO DIET??!

This is a pic I took yesterday at my office, I haven't even started adding cardio yet and my carbohydrate intake is around 200-300grams.

Not to speak for big Dave here but do you have any idea how uncool and what a "Dick Move" it is to post your picture on his photo thread?
 
Not to speak for big Dave here but do you have any idea how uncool and what a "Dick Move" it is to post your picture on his photo thread?

ahahahhahaahhahhahaha.....:fo:d-smil::ction-sm::ction-sm
 
GEEEEEBUS Erstling just can it already!! Tell you what, get a few pros in good shape for a smaller pro show. Actually how about this, get ANYONE (yourself not included) in shape for a show and have them win ANYTHING (any class), and maybe then you can continue your tirade against the keto diet. You fail to contribute positively to discussion. You have no idea what this guy looked like when he started or anything of this matter. From what I can tell Dave did a great job of getting an incredibly green competitor into great condition in a short period of time.

I've tried over and over again to contribute to the KETO DISCUSSION, no one seems to acknowledge the paramount FLAWS in such an extreme dieting approach. It will NOT maximize FAT LOSS while minimizing muscle-loss.

Sorry if posting a pic was disrespectful, but it needs to stay to illustrate my point.
 
Man i dont like to arg with no one, but you are a pain in the ass for whatever board you are in.

Get a life man and respect the others...
 
Man i dont like to arg with no one, but you are a pain in the ass for whatever board you are in.

Get a life man and respect the others...

I apologize if you think I'm disrespectful, but I won't apologize for being ARGUMENTATIVE...

The philosophical purpose of ARGUMENTATION is to arrive at TRUTH. Arguing is NOT a bad thing, it's a great thing, and everyone should be encouraged to express their own opinion or perspective.
 
I apologize if you think I'm disrespectful, but I won't apologize for being ARGUMENTATIVE...

The philosophical purpose of ARGUMENTATION is to arrive at TRUTH. Arguing is NOT a bad thing, it's a great thing, and everyone should be encouraged to express their own opinion or perspective.

Hi is not arguing with you, he's letting you know that your a Dick.

Post your abs in your own thread, WTF is wrong with you.

Chip
 
Hi is not arguing with you, he's letting you know that your a Dick.

Post your abs in your own thread, WTF is wrong with you.

Chip

I'm extremely passionate about eating low-glycemic carbs while dieting, plain and simple. The best way for me to convey that important point is through a picture, which is pertinent to this thread.

Sorry if I'm a dick, just keepin it real.
 
Not to speak for big Dave here but do you have any idea how uncool and what a "Dick Move" it is to post your picture on his photo thread?

Agreed. I am all for discussion and hearing everyones point of view. If you completely disagree with keto dietting then cool. If you comment why are you using a keto diet with this guy then cool. But posting your pic up on a thread like this is as aeliop stated a 'dick move.' The guy looks great. We don't know what he looked like 12 weeks ago. But I can tell he has done a great job. If he adds size after the show and follows more great guidance I can see his physique being a show winner. Anyway good luck for the show.
 
He looks great Dave, good luck to him.


Are you still doing MMA training these days?
 
Wow, he looks great! Nice job on getting him into contest shape! I also think it's really cool that he's doing your program without questioning it or even understanding it yet - he just believes in you. :D Keep us posted on how he does at the show!
 

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