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Critique My winter bulker cycle

Juice Freak

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Hey just wanting some feedback on my winter bulker especially from anyone who has run var at high doses.

This is it;

Weeks 1-20 Var 100mg ed
Weeks 1-20 500mg test cyp ew
Weeks 1-20 500mg EQ ew

I will be training 2x per day 3x per week. Each workout I will use 5ius humalog 40 mins out with pre workout shake, post workout 10ius gh followed by 40mcgs igfr3, followed by 10ius slin so this will be done twice on workout days.

Just gonna focus on a clean diet and staying lean while adding some extra lbs. Not looking to blow up but to stay lean and get bigger. cheers.
 
I would drop the var to 10-12weeks but other than that looks pretty good. I like that your using small amounts of gear with lots of GH and igf,etc.. Thats what I feel is best for a good offseason bulk.
 
i would drop the EQ to 400mg or up the Cyp to 600mg

maybe split the GH dose to 5iu in the morning and 5iu PWO

what do you have for PCT
 
Hey just wanting some feedback on my winter bulker especially from anyone who has run var at high doses.

This is it;

Weeks 1-20 Var 100mg ed
Weeks 1-20 500mg test cyp ew
Weeks 1-20 500mg EQ ew

I will be training 2x per day 3x per week. Each workout I will use 5ius humalog 40 mins out with pre workout shake, post workout 10ius gh followed by 40mcgs igfr3, followed by 10ius slin so this will be done twice on workout days.

Just gonna focus on a clean diet and staying lean while adding some extra lbs. Not looking to blow up but to stay lean and get bigger. cheers.

Why do you need SO much shyt? What does your diet look like? You do realize there are a few big tweaks you could throw into a bulking diet that would make a huge difference, more so than bumping your doses... and alot safer and healthier. I promise if you take Var for 20 weeks (especially at that dose) your liver is going to be fucked up. Just because it is LESS toxic than some other orals, doesnt mean its not toxic at all. Id say 100mg Var = 50mg Abombs as far as toxicity. Would you run abombs for 20 weeks? Drop that Var down to 6 weeks, then bump the cyp and EQ dose a little.

20iu GH in unison with IGF seems like overkill. Your IGF levels will already be sky high.

After all said and done, i think this is a pretty well thought out program that could work well. 20iu GH 3x/wk = roughly 8iu per day, which is a little much IMO, but to each their own. Let us know how it plays out, but again, i strongly suggest you cut at least 10-12 weeks off that oral usage, or you are going to regret it.
 
looks like your using way to much shat....in many cases more isnt better its just more....
 
holy hand grenade of Antioch!! that anavar regimen just made my liver twitch
 
Why do you need SO much shyt? What does your diet look like? You do realize there are a few big tweaks you could throw into a bulking diet that would make a huge difference, more so than bumping your doses... and alot safer and healthier. I promise if you take Var for 20 weeks (especially at that dose) your liver is going to be fucked up. Just because it is LESS toxic than some other orals, doesnt mean its not toxic at all. Id say 100mg Var = 50mg Abombs as far as toxicity. Would you run abombs for 20 weeks? Drop that Var down to 6 weeks, then bump the cyp and EQ dose a little.

20iu GH in unison with IGF seems like overkill. Your IGF levels will already be sky high.

After all said and done, i think this is a pretty well thought out program that could work well. 20iu GH 3x/wk = roughly 8iu per day, which is a little much IMO, but to each their own. Let us know how it plays out, but again, i strongly suggest you cut at least 10-12 weeks off that oral usage, or you are going to regret it.

I think he's only using 10iu Gh and thats only 3x per week. Pretty normal dose. His cycle just looks long but its a pretty small amount of gear. 500 test and 500 eq is peanuts.
 
That is a lot of var and vary (haha) long cycle. There are 4 seasons in the world and none of them are 20wks long.
 
Why var to bulk? I'd use dbol or adrol, or @ very least turnoibol if I was looking for mass ... and I'd do 6 on/6 off/6 on w/ the orals .. .
 
Why var to bulk? I'd use dbol or adrol, or @ very least turnoibol if I was looking for mass ... and I'd do 6 on/6 off/6 on w/ the orals .. .

Strength. Mg for Mg Var is stronger than drol for strength purposes... well... keepable strength purposes anyway. Not sure exactly why, but it also gives your muscle a density unlike other AAS. I was directed on this by some old schoolers, and it certainly held true, as i DIDNT use it this yr for my show, and i was leaner and didnt possess the striations i did last year and also didnt feel as if i could "peak contract' my muscles as well...
 

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