Crohns Disease

[HellRazor]

Anybody on here do any AAS while having Crohns or any other autoimmunue disorders?

I myself have Crohns and have had a pretty hard time with it my entire life. I was getting pretty bad off about 9 months ago when I really got my diet in check and went hardcore on the protein shakes and amino acids, that helped me out quite a bit. The probably 4 or 5 months ago I started doing 1 anadrol pill a day and instantly it was like I didnt even have anything wrong with me, all stomach problems dissapeared. I ran out of anadrol and went over to 1 winny pill a day and still was perfect.

I ran out of the winny about a week ago and have plummeted since then. I still have some of the anadrol so I started back to the 1 a day with it and I am 100% confident I will be back on top within a few days.

I know people bad off with Crohns will get prednisone prescribed and will take that for periods of time, but all I ever heard was it is a evil evil steroid. My question is which is worse in the long tern, prednisone or AAS? Anyone else with a condition similar to mine find that steroids helps tremendously?

I also wonder if there is a AAS that is completely safe to do small amounts for a extremely long period of time, something where it can be just 1 or 2 pills a day for life.

 

[cavemuscle]

the person to ask this of is Mike Francois. He had to drop out of competitive bodybuilding due to his IBS, but he's still active in other areas of the sport, still trains new guys and sponsors a major show.

drop him a line at www.mikefrancois.com

Brock

 

[HellRazor]

Just dropped in a email, thanks.

 

[mike1107]

considering AAS lower autoimmune responses I would not use some if I would be suffering of a serious autoimmune trouble

 

[KillerStack]

considering AAS lower autoimmune responses I would not use some if I would be suffering of a serious autoimmune trouble

Steroids can both boost and depress some parts of the immune response. Different AAS have different effects on immunity as well.

HellRazor, I don't have diagnosis yet but have been having stomach problems and I have the same experience; AAS "cures" it! I'm doing research right now.

 

[HellRazor]

Mike,
That would seem to be the case, but all I can speak of is results. Literally less then a year ago I was speaking with my doctor about getting ready for surgery #2. About that time I started the proteins, aminos, multi vitamins and everythign else under the sun and I improved quite a bit. Then I started the AAS in low dose and have been indestructable since then. The only problem I have had is a lot of sinus infections...possibly due to lowered immune system, who knows really though.

Killer,

When I was researching while doing pretty badly about a year ago, I wanted to find a link to steroids and crohns to give me a good reason to give them a go, and actually I did find 1 clinical study where they said it helped a lot. I wish I could find it again but have looked and still not run across it. I think I will go look some more right now actually. Hope it keeps working for you bro, hell I would rather live another 30 or 40 good years then live 50 or 60 crappy ones.

 

[mike1107]

from my own experiences and from the clients I have who are ON, many of us get sick a lot more easily while ON so if I were to suffer of any autoimmune disease that could put in serious trouble dude, I would take it easy on roids

do you have any treatment for it ?

 

[KillerStack]

from my own experiences and from the clients I have who are ON, many of us get sick a lot more easily while ON so if I were to suffer of any autoimmune disease that could put in serious trouble dude, I would take it easy on roids

I agree that one should be very careful using steroids having a medical issue like this. Should really be done under doctor supervision.

A suppressed immune system might not be "bad" in these situations though. People with these diseases actually use immune system suppressants due to the overactive immune system that is attacking their system. A friend of mine with ulcerative colitis was taking a cancer drug that suppresses the immune system on top of the cortisone.