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Intermittent Fasting & Heart Disease - New Study

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This is definitely correlation-not-causation but it's the first real negative health outcome I've seen associated with intermittent fasting. They only tracked what people ate over a few days, not long-term, so design isn't the best. If there is a link with heart disease is it because unhealthy people are using IF to become more healthy? Does consuming so many calories in a short window play a role?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/19/health/intermittent-fasting-pros-cons-wellness/index.html

Intermittent fasting is one of the many trendy ways people try to lose or maintain their weight.

Also known as time-restricted eating, the practice is a method of weight loss that confines a person’s eating window to set times — typically eight hours during a 24-hour period — with only clear liquids consumed during the remaining 16 hours. Other methods include two or three days of fasting during a week or month.

How well does intermittent fasting work?

Prior research has shown advantages to time restriction. A December 2019 review of human and animal studies had found benefits to restricting calories to a shortened period of the day, including improved longevity, a reduction in blood pressure and weight loss. (However, a number of those studies were in mice and those in humans were of much shorter duration, mere months.)

However, a yearlong study published in April 2022 that followed 139 Chinese adults ranging from overweight to significantly obese found no benefit over calorie counting for weight loss or improved cardiovascular health.

Concerning new findings​

Research presented this week immediately drew doubt and critiques from experts by suggesting that eating within an eight-hour window or less was significantly associated with a 91% increased risk of dying from cardiovascular disease, when compared with eating over a 12- to 16-hour period.

An abstract of the preliminary research, which is not yet peer reviewed or published, was presented Monday in Chicago at a conference of the American Heart Association.

“We were surprised to find that people who followed an 8-hour, time-restricted eating schedule were more likely to die from cardiovascular disease,” said senior study author Victor Wenze Zhong, a professor and chair of the department of epidemiology and biostatistics at the Shanghai Jiao Tong University School of Medicine in China.

“Our study’s findings encourage a more cautious, personalized approach to dietary recommendations, ensuring that they are aligned with an individual’s health status and the latest scientific evidence,” Zhong said in a statement.

New findings are too preliminary​

The new study analyzed data on 20,000 people who answered questions about their 24-hour eating habits on two days during the first year of enrollment in a long-term analysis of the health of US adults, then looked back at death records in the years afterward.

The analysis showed a link between an eight-hour eating window and death from cardiovascular disease, but the study could not determine if this eating pattern caused the deaths, the authors said.


Many experts expressed concerns about the new research.

“There’s just about enough in the conference abstract to throw huge doubts on whether the study can show what it purports to show,” said Kevin McConway, professor emeritus of applied statistics at The Open University in the United Kingdom, who was not involved in the study.

“The researchers classified people into different dietary patterns on the basis of what and when they reported they ate in just two days, over a study period averaging 8 years,” McConway said in a statement. “To relate those patterns to a deliberate long-term time-restricted eating intervention seems to be going far beyond the data.”

Nor does the abstract disclose whether the people practicing time-restricted eating worked “antisocial” hours, as truck drivers, night workers and health professionals often do, said Tom Sanders, professor emeritus of nutrition and dietetics at King’s College London, who was not involved in the study.

“This is important because there is evidence that this type of working practice is associated with increased risk of type 2 diabetes and CVD (cardiovascular disease),” Sanders said in a statement.

There is also no information in the abstract about tobacco and alcohol use, physical activity, or poverty level among those who said they practiced intermittent fasting, all of which are risk factors for heart disease, said Duane Mellor, a registered dietitian and senior teaching fellow at Aston Medical School in Birmingham, United Kingdom. Mellor was not involved in the study.

“We need to be very careful not to generate concerning headlines and stories based on such limited information,” Mellor said in a statement. “It is perhaps what you eat and your overall lifestyle that is more important than if you ate all your food in less than 8 hours on two days in the last decade.”

Is intermittent fasting good for you?​

As with many investigations in science, research can elicit conflicting results, often dependent on the quality of the study and whether the studies have all measured the same thing in the same way.

In the case of fasting, experts say studies are all over the map, with some studying fasting for two or more days during the week, some studying fasting between 8 a.m. and 4 p.m., and others from noon to 8 p.m. or other times.

“The data are not very compelling, in my opinion, for intermittent fasting. It’s a hard thing to study and publish with clean results,” nutrition researcher Christopher Gardner told CNN’s Chief Medical Correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta.

“And there’s no emphasis on quality, right?” said Gardner, a research professor of medicine at the Stanford Prevention Research Center in Palo Alto, California. “I fear that people say, ‘It’s the window, so I can have the pint of ice cream or I can have the cookies, or I can have whatever, because the most important thing is the window.”

How to lose weight​

What and how much you eat is more important than anything else, experts say.

“Bottom line, the determinant of weight loss, as well as reductions in body fat, visceral fat, blood pressure, and glucose and lipid levels, is dependent on reducing calorie intake, regardless of the distribution of food and beverages consumed throughout the day,” Alice Lichtenstein, director and senior scientist at Tufts University’s Cardiovascular Nutrition Laboratory, told CNN in a prior interview. She was not involved in that study.

In addition, a September 2020 randomized clinical trial — considered the gold standard of research — that looked at 116 people found no significant difference in weight loss between people who restricted eating from 8 p.m. and noon the next day and those who did not.

Nor did a January observational study of 547 people — it too found no real difference between restricting-eating times and weight loss.
 
This is definitely correlation-not-causation but it's the first real negative health outcome I've seen associated with intermittent fasting. They only tracked what people ate over a few days, not long-term, so design isn't the best. If there is a link with heart disease is it because unhealthy people are using IF to become more healthy? Does consuming so many calories in a short window play a role?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/19/health/intermittent-fasting-pros-cons-wellness/index.html
Another thought would be people using fasting as a way to fit shittier food into their diet.
 
Brought to you by the same Communist party that induced psychological warfare (C19) on the feeble minds.

Authors of said study-Meng Chen, Sch of Public Health, Shanghai Jiao Tong Univ Sch of Med, Shanghai, China; Victor W. Zhong, Shanghai Jiao Tong Univ, Shanghai, China
 
Trash study for a lot of reasons, but not controlling for diet is a big one.

I know loads of dudes who sleep in, skip breakfast, wake up around noon or 1 and then shove a couple pizzas or hoagies down their throat while washing it down with beer, and repeating that for years.

Technically intermittent fasting, horrible health outcomes
 
I couldn’t have said it better than this quote and section of the article:

“We need to be very careful not to generate concerning headlines and stories based on such limited information,” Mellor said in a statement. “It is perhaps what you eat and your overall lifestyle that is more important than if you ate all your food in less than 8 hours on two days in the last decade.”
 
The advocating fickle society- AHA promoting refined sugar as heart health. Does more need to be said? IMG_20240320_185851.jpg
 
I’ve been doing IF for over 15 years and I fucking love it and swear by it. The benefits I get from it are hard to deny - especially with my kidney issues. It’s silly how they can get away with these ridiculous headlines on a ‘study’ that was conducted in the most absurd way … and now I get to hear about it from everyone in my life LOL 🤪🤪🤪
 
I fasted all last night. Over 8 hours then broke that fast with my first meal of the daily immediately upon awakening. I wish all this stupid shit would go away.
 
If the news says so, it's gotta be true. If major medical says so, it's gotta be true. If big pharma says so, it's gotta be true.

If the "News" out of China claimed that Peter Pan was real, and is a pedophile capable of self-propelled flight while furiously masturbating, who's life's purpose is to steal children from impoverished sectors of the world to take them back to Neverland to harvest their ripe meat, all the news watching sheep around the world would believe it. And just like that, we'd be back to "2 weeks of shut-down to save the children", while the Fed prints trillions more dollars for this new Anti-PeterPan campaign and to cover their ever growing world debt spread, giving rise to a NEW 3-year stint of "World State Of Emergency".

And then there would be a new/novel prophylactic drug introduced to the world population, by the saving graces of Big Pharma and Major Medical, for all children and adults (just in case Peter Pan and his furious flying masturbating habits decided to steal a few adults for human jerky), that would deter Peter Pan from hijacking them from their beds......while furiously masturbating.

Ignore the puppet show. Intermittent Fast away. Humans are BUILT to fast for waaaaayyyy longer than just a "15 hour window"... just ask our forebears from 10,000 years ago. I did? They said they were hungry for months at a time.
 
If the news says so, it's gotta be true. If major medical says so, it's gotta be true. If big pharma says so, it's gotta be true.

If the "News" out of China claimed that Peter Pan was real, and is a pedophile capable of self-propelled flight while furiously masturbating, who's life's purpose is to steal children from impoverished sectors of the world to take them back to Neverland to harvest their ripe meat, all the news watching sheep around the world would believe it. And just like that, we'd be back to "2 weeks of shut-down to save the children", while the Fed prints trillions more dollars for this new Anti-PeterPan campaign and to cover their ever growing world debt spread, giving rise to a NEW 3-year stint of "World State Of Emergency".

And then there would be a new/novel prophylactic drug introduced to the world population, by the saving graces of Big Pharma and Major Medical, for all children and adults (just in case Peter Pan and his furious flying masturbating habits decided to steal a few adults for human jerky), that would deter Peter Pan from hijacking them from their beds......while furiously masturbating.

Ignore the puppet show. Intermittent Fast away. Humans are BUILT to fast for waaaaayyyy longer than just a "15 hour window"... just ask our forebears from 10,000 years ago. I did? They said they were hungry for months at a time.
This was beautifully put lol
 

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