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DC training and low carbs?

yes you can.

its suggested to up the rep range up slightly when getting leaner and then eventually going to straight sets once you get down to the nitty gritty. This is to prevent injury.

DC precontest is fine, it ensures you keep beating the logbook and holding onto muscle mass while training heavy.
 
Just a thought

I have High carb days and low carb days. Just make sure you align your days up with your DC program. Didn't the video say something about high carb on you training days and low on your non training days? I can't remember. It is easier for me to do low carb during the work week because I'm on a schedule but when the weekend comes I carb up for example on Saturday I take in all the HEALTHY carbs I can eat.

What other members do?

Razer
 
I have High carb days and low carb days. Just make sure you align your days up with your DC program. Didn't the video say something about high carb on you training days and low on your non training days? I can't remember. It is easier for me to do low carb during the work week because I'm on a schedule but when the weekend comes I carb up for example on Saturday I take in all the HEALTHY carbs I can eat.

What other members do?

Razer
no they just said basically dont count calories, 2g protien/lb bodyweight, complex carbs over simple except for post shake. but nothing about hi/low days...
 
been wanting to try DC training for awhile now....i know a few guys who responded really well to it
 
can you post the link to where we can find the dc dvd? thanks:)
 
I DC and am the AD diet and everything is good. body tends to flatten out at the end of the week with weight training only and about mid week if i'm doing cardio also.

but like justin harris if you are carbing, you can carb cycle. DC does advocate no carbs after 6 pm to prevent fat storage.

the link for the video,
HTML:
http://www.trueprotein.com/Product_Details.aspx?cid=31&pid=6827
 
If you are concerned about staying lean while eating a shit ton of food while DC training.... DC would probably talk about carb cutoffs (may be earlier or later depending on how prone you are to fat storage) and also cardio. If you are making great gains but are putting on too much fat, increase cardio and maybe change the carb cutoff to an earlier time. If you are making good gains and staying reasonably lean... you probably found your niche. Just got to experiment a bit.... for me personally, I have to be very strict with carb cutoffs and continue doing cardio in the offseason or I will become a butterball. The gains I have gotten with DC training in the past have been tremendous though. Good luck.

Also, the opinions in this post are just my interpretation of what DC has said and may not be exactly what he was trying to say.... just my 2 cents
 
DC training is flat out awesome. I can't wait to kick my log books ASS after my show.

To keep lean, I'm actually going to rely more on fat than carbs for my energy. Probably going to be downing a TON of Flax PB and Olive Oil. Gonna save my oats for breakfast and pre-workout. Waxy Maize post workout. We'll see.

I'm going to start a detailed thread on intensemuscle.com in the Dogg Pound to show the results I've had over the past year with DC training.
 
I'm going to start a detailed thread on intensemuscle.com in the Dogg Pound to show the results I've had over the past year with DC training.

It would be very interesting to see this Dave.
 
so dc training is not bad for precontest say 4 weeks out with low carbs? obviously the last thing I want to do would be hurt myself that close to a show. im not doing a show THAT soon but I would like to try to mold my precontest prep around dc training. I dont think I will by cycling my carbs I want to do a palumbo precontest diet prep. Im really just worried pushing heavy weights with that amount of intensity (DC) without adequate carb consumpition might lay my ass out and strain a pec or my back doing 400+ pound bench presses and 600+ pound rack deads.....
 
u can do dc while on low carbs, dc is not huge on voulme so carb depletion is less of an issue than with a traditional bodybuilding program
 
hey bros I was wanting to start dc training I got the dvd and there is tons of great info on there. anyways I was wondering if you guys change dc training around at all while dieting for a show and your carbs are low? dc experts greatly appreciated :D

I am glad you liked the DVD man!

When I am not dieting for a show I only ate carbs PWO and they were either waxy maize or cell tech....other than that all my meals were Pro/Fats

Now on the weekend I ate whatever I wanted for a couple meals...

Thats is basically what I did for most almost 10 months and got up to the
280's doing that..

I am 15 weeks out from a show and still doing DC but will be changing things with my logbook quite often as I am starting to lose strength on some lifts...I have to go to a meeting now and will come back and will post a Post that Dante put up about it...
 
I am glad you liked the DVD man!

When I am not dieting for a show I only ate carbs PWO and they were either waxy maize or cell tech....other than that all my meals were Pro/Fats

Now on the weekend I ate whatever I wanted for a couple meals...

Thats is basically what I did for most almost 10 months and got up to the
280's doing that..

I am 15 weeks out from a show and still doing DC but will be changing things with my logbook quite often as I am starting to lose strength on some lifts...I have to go to a meeting now and will come back and will post a Post that Dante put up about it...

lol I loved it bro you were crackin me up the whole time. loved the jean shorts and cut off plaid shirt lol :D I have a similar personality and am a total goofball. so you were saying you DONT eat carbs in the off season except for PWO?

I look forward to hearing what dante wanted to get across.
 
lol I loved it bro you were crackin me up the whole time. loved the jean shorts and cut off plaid shirt lol :D I have a similar personality and am a total goofball. so you were saying you DONT eat carbs in the off season except for PWO?

I look forward to hearing what dante wanted to get across.

heres apost dante put up about leaning out with low carbs and dc'ing....

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Doggcrapp: ok bigpete I took a couple of sentences out of your posts up above for you to look at again

"for example. I know this method, doggcrapp works, it's worked well for me"

"I've been training using the DoggCrapp method since November roughly. I've seen great gains and I'm a lot thicker now than before"

Doggcrapp::if a certain kind of training is making you thicker than ever before during the offseason why would you ever think its not going to keep your thickness (or make you even thicker) during your precontest phase? If your losing thickness that quickly in 3 weeks its because your panic dieting. I like people to diet for 15-20 weeks, taking the first 3 months and still gaining size. Its not even like your on a diet-your still bombing away trying to get larger but off comes the bodyfat. You do this by keeping a great deal of semblance of your offseason diet and just subtract carbs slowly out of it and wrap carb intake around the postworkout meal. The absolute worst thing someone can do dieting down is going from red meat and chicken and 400 grams of protein a day to extreme measures of tuna and rice cakes all day long. Talk about absolutely annihilating and destroying yourself. Thats panic dieting. With my methods you cut carbs at 5-6pm anyway in the offseason but always do a post workout protein carb up regardless of the time of day you train. Think of it this way, Ive personally got about 37 guys up 30-60lbs in the last year both online and some local. If that kind of training put that much muscle mass on them wouldnt it be absolutely ridiculous to drop that kind of training to keep their muscle mass (or increase it)during preparations for a show? If it aint broke for gods sake dont fix it. The training is going to keep all muscle, its the diet and cardio that make or break the deal.
Offseason diet is this
a)high protein
b)moderate fats (using olive oil for those who have trouble gaining weight)
c)carb cuttoff at 5-7pm determined by me concerning the individual
d) either protein carbs or protein fats eaten at meals (but thats not meticulous, just a concious effort)

If i was training you I would have you dieting somewhat like the following (i dont know your schedule and cardio regimen so im just throwing this out there)

1) large protein drink with flax or olive oil in it
2)some kind of meat sandwhich on a protein bun with 2-3 hardboiled eggs
3) big steak (or similiar protein ingestion)with salad and double veggies
4)protein drink and maybe some almonds or cashews
5)similiar to 3 (or if you workout here on workout days I would have you do a protein carbup (absolutely zero fat)
6)protein drink blend with zero carbs

that would be mon thru friday---on saturday you would take the first 3 meals and chow down almost anything like its going out of style, im talking french toast, pancakes, pop tarts, chili, etc etc etc blast it and then at the 4th thru 6th meal you get back on schedule like mon thru friday. On sunday you eat like you do mon-friday. That whole thing right there isnt so far off from your offseason diet the only thing subtracted is carbs which are pretty much wrapped around post workout (and a lil bit post cardio but we arent getting into that much detail here) --stay off the scale for 2 weeks at a time and try to not decipher yourself in the mirror every single day precontest because youll drive yourself batty--every 2 weeks take a look and access the progress and that will tell you what needs to be stepped up or stepped down (cardio)--oh yeah and at 4-6 weeks out stop rest pausing and straight set all the way in to the show. You want to be in some incredible nasty shape at 4 weeks out and inside out shredded at 2 weeks out. I know the training will keep your muscle mass what im worried about is what your doing diet and cardio wise to be losing fullness so quickly in 3 weeks


And then the on the topic of "shitloading" Dante lays out his template here:

basically I have them
a)take in their majority of carbs postworkout 3x a week during the week (obviously some trace carbs are going to be eaten during the day but you try to very conciously keep them pretty low)

b)green tea consumption in high amounts

c)high protein with regular sources used (red meat, chicken, eggs etc)

d)fibers (salads) and veggies (asparagus, broccolli etc etc) are used
to take up hunger slack

e)cardio done for 45-60mins on off training days (4 days a week) depending on the person --I have some people that dont need to do cardio

f)monday thru friday is strict and youll definitely be flat on thurs and fri--youll look awesome on sunday

g)saturday morning they shitload for the first 2 to 3 meals and then get right back on schedule (but at a somewhat looser (not much!) pace than mon - fri)--what i mean by that is people go out to eat alot on the weekends and are in a rush--so I account for that --where adjustments have to be made but still trying to keep on the diet the best of your ability

h)one cardio session is done on saturday post shitload (depends on person again though)

alot of people abhore cardio and this has allowed me to minimize cardio with alot of them (not all though)
 
Hey MM that post looks familiar... where'd you find it? haha
 

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