Deca question.

Ehren · Mar 5, 2010

I usually use Test and an Oral for my cycles, but Im thinking of using a Test + anabolic and no oral for the next one, and I am considering Deca.

I've done a lot of research on this but still have a few questions:

If you keep a ratio of 3:1 Deca to Test (say 200 Test/600 deca) is this enough to stave of the dreaded Deca dick for most folks?

Is prami or dostinex a must when using Deca?

As a way to see how I react, would it be better to use NPP first? I know Deca-Durabolin has a long half-life and I'd hate to have erectile problems or cystic acne that I had to deal with for months instead of weeks, if Deca isn't for me.

almard · Mar 5, 2010

I would not go above 400g of Deca, if I were you.....

Tylerman · Mar 5, 2010

test dose should be higher or the same as deca......but not lower as you have it laid out

EYE2EYE · Mar 5, 2010

I ran Deca at 300mgs every 7 days along with my Test,which was 300mgs as well. Ran Deca for about 5wks,until my RBC hit 19.My face was Tomato red.
I had Dost on hand for any sides from Deca. No negatives sides at all,while on or when i stopped. If i run Deca again,it may be NPP next time. Hope this helps. Peace.

Ehren · Mar 5, 2010

Thanks for the responses Gents. I'll take your advice.

I asked this question because I was reading a thread from Magnum, where they advise 70% Anabolics to 30% Androgens as being most effective.

But reading it again, this is for building muscle, not ALSO maintaining sexual function. Glad I asked! Muscle is good, but it still comes second to sex!

Here's a quote from the thread/why I was asking.
"if you guys remember some old skool research from the crazy USSR days, i believe the russians did research with androgen vs. anabolic ratios. i have to dig up the articles i know i have them at work somewhere, but if i remember correctly they found that most athletes gained the most mass running cycles using 70% anabolics and 30% androgens. if you read magnum's response to a previous cycle question, you will see he stated using roughly 600-900mg deca/wk and 250mg test/wk....this works out to roughly that 70/30 ratio...figure midway point of deca is 750mg which is roughly 70% and 250mg test is roughly 30% for a total of about 1g of gear per week..."

johnjuanb1 · Mar 5, 2010

400mg of deca is plenty. I haven't found higher doses to cause further benefits.

oldfella · Mar 5, 2010

As p-reviously posted........test should be higher than or at the least equal to deca dose.

To answer the second part of your question......Deca dick as it is called is not always dose dependant. It may come due to the duration of use ie. 8 weeks@200/wk may cause erectile dysfunction. Hell some might get this after only four weeks. Everyone is different. As a rule you should always use the lowest amount possible to get results. if 100mg/wk produces resiults then 300gm/wk may not produce any more results than you are already getting.