I guess I am just looking for any opinion or advise that can help.
To quickly sumarize my experience, I used GH straight almost for the past 2 years. I only took a 3 month break at some point, and a couple of 1 weeks breaks. Started my first time ever with Saizen. Only beautiful results, no side effects at all. Due to cost, after some 5 months switched to Supertropin. Of course less results, but still complementing my workouts very well. After a few months I started using generic grey tops (NON TP), with a couple of serostim vials here and there. With the generic grey tops I had some sensitivity to it upon injection, but nothing big. I attributed it to lower quality, less purity, more dimmer.
Stopped everything in March for coronavirus shutdown. Restarting gym and diet a month ago, I got my hands on a couple of Norditropin Simplexx cartridges 15mg (45iu) Tried a very small dose of just 1iu to start, and I had a VERY bad reaction, like never before. It was an almost instant severe anxiety feeling, heart racing, feeling on fainting, nausea. I have had panic attacks before and this was nothing similar. This was not psychological, it was some sort of hypersensitivity or allergic reaction. Thought about going to the ER, but started subsiding after about an hour.
Now of course this whole thing has me very frustrated. I did an experiment today, I diluted 1iu of Nordi in 0.5ML of bad water, in order to be able to inject a very minuscule drop in my body and asses reaction. Even with a tiny droplet, which would equal an insignificant amount of somatropin, I felt nauseated and soem slight anxiety for a few minutes.
My friend I got it from is using it too, along with 2 of his friends. Although I haven't checked their results as far as gains with them. They could be fake, or I am reacting to some ingredient.
One detail, all the GH I used before were in powder form. The Norditropin Simplex comes liquid and for that reason it has other ingredients that GH like the old Saizen pens for example dont have.
Is it an allergy to mannitol? to Phenol? Polymer 188? to Somatropin? or is it fake and whatever is inside is giving me that reaction?
Is it that the generic grey tops were maybe 192 amino acids and my body developed antibodies or intolerance to Somatropin??
I am so confused. Any advise or opinion helps at this point. Ive been trying to research about fake Nordis without too much luck. It seems like the fakes are pretty much indentical to the real ones so is almost impossible to tell.
To quickly sumarize my experience, I used GH straight almost for the past 2 years. I only took a 3 month break at some point, and a couple of 1 weeks breaks. Started my first time ever with Saizen. Only beautiful results, no side effects at all. Due to cost, after some 5 months switched to Supertropin. Of course less results, but still complementing my workouts very well. After a few months I started using generic grey tops (NON TP), with a couple of serostim vials here and there. With the generic grey tops I had some sensitivity to it upon injection, but nothing big. I attributed it to lower quality, less purity, more dimmer.
Stopped everything in March for coronavirus shutdown. Restarting gym and diet a month ago, I got my hands on a couple of Norditropin Simplexx cartridges 15mg (45iu) Tried a very small dose of just 1iu to start, and I had a VERY bad reaction, like never before. It was an almost instant severe anxiety feeling, heart racing, feeling on fainting, nausea. I have had panic attacks before and this was nothing similar. This was not psychological, it was some sort of hypersensitivity or allergic reaction. Thought about going to the ER, but started subsiding after about an hour.
Now of course this whole thing has me very frustrated. I did an experiment today, I diluted 1iu of Nordi in 0.5ML of bad water, in order to be able to inject a very minuscule drop in my body and asses reaction. Even with a tiny droplet, which would equal an insignificant amount of somatropin, I felt nauseated and soem slight anxiety for a few minutes.
My friend I got it from is using it too, along with 2 of his friends. Although I haven't checked their results as far as gains with them. They could be fake, or I am reacting to some ingredient.
One detail, all the GH I used before were in powder form. The Norditropin Simplex comes liquid and for that reason it has other ingredients that GH like the old Saizen pens for example dont have.
Is it an allergy to mannitol? to Phenol? Polymer 188? to Somatropin? or is it fake and whatever is inside is giving me that reaction?
Is it that the generic grey tops were maybe 192 amino acids and my body developed antibodies or intolerance to Somatropin??
I am so confused. Any advise or opinion helps at this point. Ive been trying to research about fake Nordis without too much luck. It seems like the fakes are pretty much indentical to the real ones so is almost impossible to tell.