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do i need a pct after 3 years of blasting/cruising?

bahtforyou

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the first 2 years i did about 5-6 different cycles with test always being at 250mg/week. Until this last year its been only 250mg test e every week to week 1/2. i also take arimidex twice per week.

can i simply just ween down the test e dose week by week, as if i were tapering it?

for example:
week 1 :250test
week 3:150test
week 5: 75test
week 7: 50mg


do i need to add anything like climid/tamoxifen/proviron/hcg/cialis etc etc ?

any advice would be much appreciated, thanks everyone!
 

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After 3 years you might need all of it

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Lmfao, you definitely right he might need all of it and, some and depending on his age he might just need to stay on for the rest of his life. I've heard of people doing long Cycles like 20 weeks but God damn that's like a 156 weeks cycle..

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You will more than likely have to stay on for life.....Or become a Girl!
 

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You will likely need TRT but PCT is a given.
 

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hello everyone, enough jokes aside...
i'm only 27 years old 6 foot, 203lbs. so i won't be staying on trt for life

obviously anything is accomplishable and surely poking myself with a needle until I'm 80 is not a choice..

yes you will need hcg

clomid,proviron and tamoxifen maybe some hmg
any protocols for this? also how do you feel about weening off of the testosterone? as if i was tapering off of something...

cheers
 
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hello everyone, enough jokes aside...
i'm only 27 years old 6 foot, 203lbs. so i won't be staying on trt for life

obviously anything is accomplishable and surely poking myself with a needle until I'm 80 is not a choice..



any protocols for this? also how do you feel about weening off of the testosterone? as if i was tapering off of something...

cheers
tapering will do you absolutely no good. someone feel free to correct me if i'm wrong, but pretty much putting any amount of exogenous testosterone into your body will tell your body to stop producing it, so i really don't think it matters how much. i think that was an old school protocol but has since been abandoned.
 

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hello everyone, enough jokes aside...
i'm only 27 years old 6 foot, 203lbs. so i won't be staying on trt for life

obviously anything is accomplishable and surely poking myself with a needle until I'm 80 is not a choice..



any protocols for this? also how do you feel about weening off of the testosterone? as if i was tapering off of something...

cheers
3 years on would equal about 3 years until fully recovered.....
just gonna have to hunker down and STAY OFF.....
NOTHING is going to make it any easier for you.....sadly

every action has equal and opposite reaction....

:cool:
 

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So you stayed on for three years with no real understanding of how these drugs or your body worked!? Astounding.

This isnt like other drugs where you taper down. That was some 2007 bb.com kid knowledge.

Basically you body has stopped making test for the whole time you were on and there is a good chance it wont start back up again.
 

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thanks guys. well aware of what i have put inside my body, and aware of the consequences to come. we're all adults here.

if you have some knowledge on a good pct plan after 3 years of being on, feel free to spill the beans, as it would be much appreciated!
 

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you will need trt

i would be suprised if you didnt battle with all sorts of sexual dysfunctions going forward
 

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thanks guys. well aware of what i have put inside my body, and aware of the consequences to come. we're all adults here.

if you have some knowledge on a good pct plan after 3 years of being on, feel free to spill the beans, as it would be much appreciated!
for pct.....I would continue to train....and eat fairly well....
and keep bf levels low

worse thing you can do, is quit training....
 

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hello everyone, enough jokes aside...
i'm only 27 years old 6 foot, 203lbs. so i won't be staying on trt for life

obviously anything is accomplishable and surely poking myself with a needle until I'm 80 is not a choice..



any protocols for this? also how do you feel about weening off of the testosterone? as if i was tapering off of something...

cheers
Check out Emerics forum. You might have luck trying out one of his protocols.

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you will need trt

i would be suprised if you didnt battle with all sorts of sexual dysfunctions going forward
yeah I'm aware of the dysfunctions to come and mental battle as well, i will probably seek out professional advice from a doctor, but are you saying trt for the rest of my life or just some protocol until i feel well?


for pct.....I would continue to train....and eat fairly well....
and keep bf levels low

worse thing you can do, is quit training....
OK. great advice, actually the reason why i want to get off is because i don't want to train anymore due to life events. I will still hit the gym and take your advice thanks man

Check out Emerics forum. You might have luck trying out one of his protocols.

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would you mind posting emerics forum , or a link to one of his protocols? thanks!
 

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how about this PCT?

HCG - 2000 iu EOD – (first 20 days)
Clomid - 100 mg ED - split the dose ½ in the AM, ½ in the PM (first 30 days)
Nolvadex - 40 mg ED – split the dose ½ in the AM, ½ in the PM (entire 45 days)


do i need to keep my arimidex at 1mg 2x per week or switch to aromasin at 20mg/day throughout 45 days?

any advice appreciated!

thanks
 

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so i won't be staying on trt for life

obviously anything is accomplishable and surely poking myself with a needle until I'm 80 is not a choice..
You're right there are creams rather than injections :rolleyes:





No you're just going to have to come off and see what happens, but be ready for the ride. The pct protocol looks fine, but eventually once that's done with, you are going to tank and feel like shit regardless. These drugs are more of a crutch IMO to ease you into feeling like shit.

I'd maybe run clomid longer but that's just me. It doesn't effect me to terribly emotion wise like it dose some.
 
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nolvadex and especially clomid will raise your testosterone levels, artificially stimulating you....those drugs do not really help start recovery. Clomid mono-therapy is a first-line response therapy prescribed by some endocrinologists for low testosterone (hypogonadism) and if it works it is for life. As soon as you come off the clomid you will be whatever you are at naturally. FWIW I would come back off and run "PCT" and my testosterone levels would be 500-600 on clomid after cycles and then crash to 150-200 level without the clomid and just sit there for 1, 2, 3 months. I never made it past 6 months off without going back on. That was after cycling on/off for 3 years (time on = time off). Finally I gave up, as life was not worth living at a total test level of 200 when I had grown to love 1k-2k levels....and went on TRT.

The best advice is if you want to be natural, to go for it. Your body may find a homeostasis you can live with. It will most likely be a bit lower than you were naturally before you took steroids or you may have good genetics for recovery and make it through with a normal level after 6 months - 1 year completely natural. Time will tell.

Be well man.
 
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U should definitely switch the arimidex for aromasin.Ive read its the only one u want to run during a pct (i trt myself 44yrs old) uay want to look into getting on an antidepressant&some viagra right before going on pct,they may help.good luck to u
 

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