DOCTORS putting steriod use in your medical file....

[j8282]

Is this normal and no way around it? My docs nurse called me and told me my cbc result and said that some things were off and she said it was due to my roid use. I was pissed b/c I was under the impression that it was confidential and not in my file. What scares me if something happens to me my life insurance my find out and not pay to take care of my family. Any thoughts? Damn I am pissed

 

[dean250r]

Is this normal and no way around it? My docs nurse called me and told me my cbc result and said that some things were off and she said it was due to my roid use. I was pissed b/c I was under the impression that it was confidential and not in my file. What scares me if something happens to me my life insurance my find out and not pay to take care of my family. Any thoughts? Damn I am pissed

It is confidential. But its still in your file. Don't tell them stuff like this. They don't know how to react. Ask them to remove it or make shit up like you meant creatine. Make them look bad like they don't know the difference between creatine and roids. Confuse things a bit. Then its your word against theirs. Your life insurance cannot access your medical records without your consent.

 

[Medic08]

It is confidential. But its still in your file. Don't tell them stuff like this. They don't know how to react. Ask them to remove it or make shit up like you meant creatine. Make them look bad like they don't know the difference between creatine and roids. Confuse things a bit. Then its your word against theirs. Your life insurance cannot access your medical records without your consent.

C'mon man you seriously think dr's don't know the difference between steroids and creatine? I hope you're not that nieve. Dr.'s may not be as knowable as some of the people on this board or know how to run a cycle, but they are educated, period. A highschool kid knows the difference between creatine and steroids bro.

To the OP. Why are you upset? The dr. told you the truth and you're upset about it? Steroids can alter blood levels, especially H&H. All the dr did was use the culprit to diagnose why your levels are elevated. Nothing wrong with that.... He didn't break any rules and it's comical that you're upset about this.

 

[j8282]

C'mon man you seriously think dr's don't know the difference between steroids and creatine? I hope you're not that nieve. Dr.'s may not be as knowable as some of the people on this board or know how to run a cycle, but they are educated, period. A highschool kid knows the difference between creatine and steroids bro.

To the OP. Why are you upset? The dr. told you the truth and you're upset about it? Steroids can alter blood levels, especially H&H. All the dr did was use the culprit to diagnose why your levels are elevated. Nothing wrong with that.... He didn't break any rules and it's comical that you're upset about this.

Just upset that the nurse is informed that I use. I know stuff will be out of wack, just worried how it might affect my wife getting money if something happens to me and the insurance suspect steroid abuse..

 

[Medic08]

Just upset that the nurse is informed that I use. I know stuff will be out of wack, just worried how it might affect my wife getting money if something happens to me and the insurance suspect steroid abuse..

I gottcha, but in all honestly it doesn't matter what the nurse knows. The dr has to use all the information that is needed to diagnose your issues. Very rarely will the dr call and give results, the nurse usually does. Now if she goes and runs her mouth to her friend then that's a hippa violation. The dr has that take everything into consideration when diagnosing. EVERYTHING you tell a dr goes in your file so just know that for future reference. It's good to hear that you're being safe with the blood test while using. Just don't ignore the abnormal results though.

 

[dean250r]

C'mon man you seriously think dr's don't know the difference between steroids and creatine? I hope you're not that nieve. Dr.'s may not be as knowable as some of the people on this board or know how to run a cycle, but they are educated, period. A highschool kid knows the difference between creatine and steroids bro.

Can you say C o n c r e t e B o u n d ?

 

[TNH]

I have been thinking about this topic lately because I want to get more blood work, especially while on.

I was thinking that those of us who use AAS could bring in a bottle of boladrol or superdrol, and tell your doc you have been taking this because you don't want to do anything illegal. It would explain any whacked blood results, but keep your records safe because the product is legal, right? Am I on the right track here, or is that a bunk idea?

 

[dean250r]

Just upset that the nurse is informed that I use. I know stuff will be out of wack, just worried how it might affect my wife getting money if something happens to me and the insurance suspect steroid abuse..

Totally understandable you'd feel this way. People can be unjustly treated because of AAS use. Some doctors will keep it off the record if you ask them - provided you're not a train wreck. You should always be checking blood work with AAS, but use discretion with what you tell people. I think you're mature enough to know when there is a dire need to reveal and when there isnt.

I think it is worth a shot to ask if that info can be removed from your records if it bothers you. Yes, there are rules, but the doctor can always use discretion.

Good luck.

 

[zolte]

It is confidential, unless the information is subpoenaed. There are many reasons one's medical records could be subpoenaed. One of them COULD be an insurer not wanting to pay out on a life insurance policy.

 

[maldorf]

Just upset that the nurse is informed that I use. I know stuff will be out of wack, just worried how it might affect my wife getting money if something happens to me and the insurance suspect steroid abuse..

Well, to be honest, worrying about your wife getting paid out your life insurance money shouldnt be your first concern. Your first concern should be you passing away prematurely and leaving your wife a widow and your children fatherless.

 

[j8282]

Well, to be honest, worrying about your wife getting paid out your life insurance money shouldnt be your first concern. Your first concern should be you passing away prematurely and leaving your wife a widow and your children fatherless.

That too but want them to be taken care of. My dad died young, 32 of cancer and life insurance really help my mom. Only thing that was off in my CBC was Liver elevated and HDL 9 and LDL 191 but my cholesterol has always been flaky, even in the military. I had my CBC done after reading your post about Hemoglobin, RBC and Hemocrit. All within normal value. I am starting 4000mg of Fish oil tonight with omega 6,9 also.

 

[maldorf]

That too but want them to be taken care of. My dad died young, 32 of cancer and life insurance really help my mom. Only thing that was off in my CBC was Liver elevated and HDL 9 and LDL 191 but my cholesterol has always been flaky, even in the military. I had my CBC done after reading your post about Hemoglobin, RBC and Hemocrit. All within normal value. I am starting 4000mg of Fish oil tonight with omega 6,9 also.

Great that you had your CBC and that it was all within normal. I too had HDL problems like you, but my LDL was always below 70. YOur cholesterol is pretty wacked. Fish oil didnt raise my HDL at all. HTe only thing that helped mine was taking Niaspan. Prescription niacin. I think if you asked your doc about it that they would prescribe it. I had better luck using it than the over the counter stuff. If you go over the counter, use at least 1g/day and make sure its NOT the nonflush kind. Get the regular. Crestor also helped to bring my HDL up a tiny bit.
If youre really conerned about your health and your family means the most to you, you might want to reconsider your AAS usage. I wish I had.

 

[juced_porkchop]

everythign you tell them gos in your file.
that has nothing to do with confidential. they wont tell anyone about your file. they cant give out your file for people to see (unless you let them wih life/health insurance will want and then your denied insurance when they see illegal steroid uses or denie you if you dont allow them to see files )

most people know this man..

 

[juced_porkchop]

Just upset that the nurse is informed that I use. I know stuff will be out of wack, just worried how it might affect my wife getting money if something happens to me and the insurance suspect steroid abuse..

as i mentioned before in my last post.....
BTW why did you ever even tell them. even an absess you could have said its from a b12 injection you did. or for liver checks just say you want to be sure ect.
never any need to tell them. with the exception of maybe your going for surgery and they will be giving you blood thinners or thickaners, then you might want to mention you migh have high RBC or you want a full sloofd test BEFORE you go in for surgery.

 

[Medic08]

Can you say C o n c r e t e B o u n d ?

??? I guess not...

 

[Kaladryn]

C'mon man you seriously think dr's don't know the difference between steroids and creatine? I hope you're not that nieve. Dr.'s may not be as knowable as some of the people on this board or know how to run a cycle, but they are educated, period. A highschool kid knows the difference between creatine and steroids bro.

The word "steroids" is used broadly to describe many things, most people consider HGH "steroids" some people would even use the word steroid for any performance enhancer. All he is saying is to make it sound like you meant creatine was a performance enhancer, not an actual steroid, and like you think the doctor doesn't know the difference for effect.

Also, I'm sure there are at least a few docs dumb enough to think of creatine as a "steroid" even though they know chemically it is not. An interesting fact: when you say "creatine" to most medical professionals, they will often correct you and say, "you mean creatinine?" because they are used to their patients mispronouncing creatinine as creatine. I have had to explain the full story on testosterone>estradiol>gnrh>lh to an MD before. The fact is, most docters get VERY limited biochemistry. Of course the good MD is much, much more educated than the average one.

 

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[j8282]

Great that you had your CBC and that it was all within normal. I too had HDL problems like you, but my LDL was always below 70. YOur cholesterol is pretty wacked. Fish oil didnt raise my HDL at all. HTe only thing that helped mine was taking Niaspan. Prescription niacin. I think if you asked your doc about it that they would prescribe it. I had better luck using it than the over the counter stuff. If you go over the counter, use at least 1g/day and make sure its NOT the nonflush kind. Get the regular. Crestor also helped to bring my HDL up a tiny bit.
If youre really conerned about your health and your family means the most to you, you might want to reconsider your AAS usage. I wish I had.

I have taken niaspan then switched to slo-niacin b/c its much cheaper. I think my HDL is wack b/c of Tren. It was wack last time I was on it. In the military I had a friend in the lab that would check my blood when I needed then throw it away and my HDL was 3 back then, believe I was not using. My doc thinks it may be in my family but not sure since my family doesn't take care of themselves and diabetics. I asked my doc about red yeast rice and he said it only works if it has traces of a known medication in it. Who knows.....

 

[juicin]

Yeah man your cholesterol is really fucked up! Mine is low too though. I would give red yeast rice a try if, for some reason, your doc is not going to prescribe you cholesterol meds. One guy on here had his total cholesterol drop a 100 points because of RYR.