Do you think Proviron would be effective against Dianabol's estrogenic side effects, namely gyno?DHT is anti-estrogenic.
Do you think Proviron would be effective against Dianabol's estrogenic side effects, namely gyno?
Do you think Proviron would be effective against Dianabol's estrogenic side effects, namely gyno?
@Swifto , can masteron replace proviron or is it something specific about proviron?
For that matter, can primo replace the proviron as the DHT component or, again, is it something specific to the provi?
Copy that, thank you for the information. It substantiates what I've found on my own - that its not an anomaly. I was running 150mg test + 500mg primo and had crashed E2 with no other control. I think my E2 was sub 10, can't remember the exact number now, but very very low.I think so, yes. I dont think its specific to Proviron.
When I use DHT based AAS and under 300mg per week Test I dont tend to need an AI. But due to having a small case of gyno, I use a low SERM dose anyway. Your total Test dose will also be a factor.
Masteron, Primo, Anvar, Winstrol will all help with estrogenic side effects. That differs from person to person and BW will determine what anti-estrogen you will require. Try it and see.
But as I said above, Proviron cannot replace an AI in my experience. I tried that at 19 years old with 50mg/ED Proviron and 500mg Test Enan and ended up with a small case of gyno.
lol what? We're specifically talking about an anti-estrogenic component to DHT based androgens and you come in with this.All androgens are antiestrogenic, this doesn't mean the effect is significant in any way.
The 'anti-estrogenic' component of DHT is purely from it being a strong androgen (2x the affinity for the AR). In case you didn't know, androgens and estrogens compete. The same way that nolvadex is a competitive estrogen inhibitor, all androgens are competitive estorgen inhibitors (and estrogens are competitive androgen inhibitors).lol what? We're specifically talking about an anti-estrogenic component to DHT based androgens and you come in with this.
You do this style of rhetoric a lot in discussion, I've noticed, and imo it really does the board a disservice.
Both testosterone and dihydrotestosterone (DHT) demonstrate similar degrees of antiestrogenic activity
you're a fucking moron if you think testosterone has the same amount of anti-estrogenic activity relative to how strong of an androgen it is compared to primo, winstrol, var, etc. Myself and many others have added primo and watched our estrogen get crushed. You can add test or you can add something wet like dbol and get it pumped back up easy.The 'anti-estrogenic' component of DHT is purely from it being a strong androgen (2x the affinity for the AR). In case you didn't know, androgens and estrogens compete. The same way that nolvadex is a competitive estrogen inhibitor, all androgens are competitive estorgen inhibitors (and estrogens are competitive androgen inhibitors).
Sorry I didn't know you needed you handheld like a little baby. I have done an extreme amount of 'service' to this board, I'm sorry I don't assume your knowledge base is so limited. READ MY SIG, it's directed at people like you.
An antiestrogenic action of androgens in human breast cancer cells - PubMed
We have recently observed that androgens prevent the estrogen-dependent augmentation of cytoplasmic progesterone receptor (PRc) in MCF-7 human breast cancer cells and now report the results of studies that further characterize this new example of sex steroid antagonism. Using a single saturating...pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Just wow, what a moronic troll.
FYI, I won't be returning to this thread to read your inept response.