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Ecdysterone: potential mechanisms of action

Phytoecdysteroids extracted from plants and anabolic activity
Author: Type-IIx

Plant sources of Central Asia
Ajuga turkestanica, samples collected in canyons near Derbent (Surkhan Region, Uzbekistan) contained 22-acetylcyasterone (0.12%), cyasterone (0.025%), ecdysterone (0.20%), and turkesterone (0.17%) after extraction [1]. Mamatkhanov cites Usamanoz et al's analysis of the turkesterone content of the raw plant material of Ajuga turkestanica root as containing "a yield of 0.052% on the weight of the raw material [3]. A methanol and/or 80% ethanol extraction process yielded about 0.14% of turkesterone from Ajuga turkestanica gathered from the Surkhandar'inskaya Oblast, Uzbekistan [3].

Turkesterone is also derived from the Leuzea carthamoides [Asteraceae], a rich source native to Southern Siberia, Kazakhstan, the Altay region, and Western Sayan Mountains. It is present in a lower abundance in Vitex and Tapinella species as well.

Turkesterone 193.6(%) effect size in a proxy for protein anabolism†, versus
Ecdysterone 167.3 [1]

It is significant to note that:
Silenoside A
Cyasterone

were also present naturally, and showed greater anabolism in measured tissue than ecdysterone [1]†. The measured tissue being the liver. These compounds were derived from other phytoecdysteroid(PE)-containing plants from Central Asia.

Other sampled plants from Syrov et al. included Silene praemixta M. Pop. (Chimkent Region, Kazakhastan) [2-deoxy-α-ecdysone (0.12%), viticosterone E (0.0017%), 2-deoxyecdysterone (0.082%),
α-ecdysone (0.025%), ecdysterone (0.65%)], Silene brahuca Boiss (Tashkent Region, Uzbekistan) [0.094% of ecdysterone, 0.020% integristerone A], Silene scabrifolia Koin (Dzhizak Regi
on, Uzbekistan) [2-deoxy-α-ecdysone (0.20%), ecdysterone 22-O-benzoate (0.16%),...

In all, 23 plant-derived PEs from four plant species were demonstrated to increase protein anabolism†. This is not intended as an exhaustive list of Syrov and his team's work.

Anabolism in skeletal & non-skeletal muscle tissue
Net protein accretion§ (proxy for "anabolism," intact pubertal rats) [approximate %Δ]:
- Turkesterone (5mg / kg):
- liver: +10
- heart: +20
- muscle: +25
- kidney: +15
- v. prostate: +20
- Ecdysterone (5mg / kg):
- liver: +7
- heart: +4
- muscle: +10
- kidney: +5
- v. prostate: +4 [2]

Structural effects on protein anabolism in humans:
- 2,3-diol system
- C-20 hydroxy group
- C-11 hydroxy group
- turkesterone's 11-oxy group sharply increases its anabolic effect [1] [7]

For discussion of potential mechanisms of action in human skeletal muscle hypertrophy: Phytoecdysteroids potential mechanisms of action in hypertrophy
Protein synthesis increase associated with polyribosomal activity and acceleration of the translocation processes rather than induction of new RNA synthesis [7].

Discussion
In the early 2000s, the work of Dr. Syrov was considered significant in the study of the prevalence of PEs, their anabolic effects in mammals, and importantly to some possessing a particular entrepreneurial spirit, as a source of a potentially lucrative performance-enhancing compound, chiefly turkesterone, that has variously been described as "more anabolic than Dbol" [see ¶ below for origin of the conflation (intentional or otherwise) of methylandrostenediol with methandrostenolone]. Uzbek biochemists strove to demonstrate the richness of Uzbekistan in the field of study of PEs, as well as a source of unparalleled turkesterone purity. Dr. Syrov and members of his team penned several whitepapers signing off with a nod to the doping potential of the PEs. The early 2000s were the heyday for PE supplements. Syrov penned in 2000 [2], "[P]hytoecdysteroids are of interest as potential agents capable of stimulating protein synthesis in the organism without violating the endocrine system functioning. The most active [PE (turkesterone)] may present an alternative to [AAS], the administration of which has serious limitations both in chemotherapeutic practice and in sports, where these agents are classified as prohibited... [2]"

The plants described by Syrov, et al. represented an inexhaustive sample, yet one that included three plant genii containing a potent blend of PEs that could be extracted using straightforward extraction processes (ethanol-methanol) and covered tens or hundreds of thousands of kilometers of travel throughout Central Asia. Therefore, it is fair to say that it could not fairly be dismissed as a mere sample of convenience. There are plants containing high concentrations of PEs beyond those enumerated by Dr. Syrov, however. Chiefly, the genii Serratula and Leuzea [7].


Odinokov et al. extracted 1.5% ecdysterone from the total yield of the juice of the Serratula coronata L. (Asteraceae) gathered in the South Urals territory (Russia), as well as isolating various other active PEs from the plant [9]. Folklore describes Siberians consuming hardy plants (now identified as containing high levels of PEs) to enhance stamina and ward off fatigue [5]. There is an abundance of research on PEs in the Chinese and Eurasian languages, indicating some prevalence of plants containing a wide spectrum of PEs in various concentrations.

Beyond the plant species enumerated, PEs are found as well in a variety of plants considered to have "nutraceutical" properties, providing a "whole body anabolism":

0.51mg/g of ecdysterone was extracted from wild quinoa using a DES extraction method [8].

Searching the literature, there are English-language references to other sources of anabolic PEs:
...
Biosynthesis and accumulation of 20-hydroxyecdysone in individual male and female spinach plants during the reproductive stage
DOI: 10.1016/j.plaphy.2018.06.027

Distribution and Biosynthesis of 20-Hydroxyecdysone in Plants of Achyranthes japonica Nakai
DOI: 10.1271/bbb.100410
Phytoecdysteroids in the genus Asparagus (Asparagaceae)
DOI: 10.1016/s0031-9422(00)00438-6
And many, many more studies like this.

Chinese PE products
Perhaps most interesting to the reader concerned with the quality of Chinese sources for PEs is the Cyanotis arachnoidea.

Cyanotis arachnoidea (China) is among the most potent sources of ecdysterone: its roots can contain up to 4-5% ecdysterone [10]. It is the source of ecdysterone in myriad commercially available ecdysterone-containing supplements. Dozens of companies, sometimes with a minimum order of 200kg of PE-containing extracts, offer several tons per year (some even climing to be able to supply over a ton per week for as low as 10 USD per kg), available for internet-based purchase worldwide [10].

A claimed "90% pure ecdysterone" supplement of Chinese origin was analyzed: 2 capsules (recommended daily dose) contained:
- 2-24mg ecdysterone (within safe limits, an effective human dose)
- ≤9mg 20E-acetate
- ≤11.7mg 20E3-acetate
- 0.2-0.8mg ajugasterone-like (newly discovered PE) compound
- 0.1-0.9mg shidasterone
- 0.3-1.8mg dacryhainansterone
- ≤0.3mg 5α-ecdysterone
- ≤0.7mg 2SR-S-20,26-dihydroxyecdysone + 2S-S20,26-dihydroxyecdysone,,[10],,

In this author's view, there are a few points to be made:
- "Chinese ecdysterone," i.e., Cyanotis arachnoidea is a potent source of the primary PE that has been extensively studied, efficacious, and quite safe
- This plant contains a similar profile of various understudied (in humans) PEs as compared to the Ajuga turkestanica- noteworthy, however, is its absence of turkesterone
- There is widespread prejudice against China even in the literature as a source country for alternative (Chinese traditional) medicine, and naturally contaminated and fraudulent products or marketing, and it is actually funny to read. This plant source is almost certainly perfectly safe to consume if you aim to consume a sane level of PEs.
- The appropriate stance in regard to the bioactive quantities and contents of any particular supplement product is a suspension of judgment in the absence of independent laboratory analysis (Refer to Phytoecdysteroids potential mechanisms of action in hypertrophy for a discussion regarding the findings of independent laboratory analysis on samples from commercially available supplements purported to contain ecdysterone). While the Ajuga turkestanica is considered a potent source of both ecdysterone and turkesterone, other plants contain ecdysterone in greater quantities as well as other active PEs, the particular effects of which are understudied or unknown in humans. Turkesterone in particular may not be the ideal choice for many users.
 
Turkesterone

Turkesterone, like ecdysterone, may be characterized as exhibiting a "whole body anabolism," and may be considered to have an unfavorable profile for increased anabolism in heart and prostate tissue [2]. However, it is critical to note that organ enlargement is not a bad thing per se. For example, Clen may be used in high doses to stimulate physiological cardiac hypertrophy in LVAD patients with heart failure. The cardiac hypertrophy is apparently physiological rather than pathological. Such growth is likely with the phytoecdysteroids. Turkesterone is about 80% as anabolic in heart and 80% as anabolic in ventral prostate tissue as in skeletal muscle tissue [2]. These factors should be viewed as risk-balancing considerations for users. Ecdysterone presents a significantly better, though not riskless, profile versus turkesterone. Protein accretion in organs may be considered beneficial in certain wasting conditions.

Confusion with Dbol

¶Whereas ecdysterone's net weight gain‡ of 7.9mg * g⁻¹day⁻¹ was comparable to turkesterone's 8.5mg * g⁻¹day⁻¹, turkesterone showed a tendency to increase heart (~+20%) and ventral prostate (~+20%) protein accretion by nearly the same magnitude as in muscle (~+25%). By comparison, ecdysterone's tendency to increase net protein accretion in muscle tissue was observed to be about double the average net protein accretion in the other organs measured (liver, heart, kidney, v. prostate) [2]. In the same paper [2], methylandrostenediol (not to be confused with methandrostenolone [Dianabol] - which it frequently is, e.g., Bathori (2008) citing Syrov (2000) p. 77) at double the dose (10mg / kg) versus the PEs demonstrated the same body weight gain (8.5mg * g⁻¹day⁻¹) as ecdysterone.

Consideration of ecdysterone's (and other PEs') potential binding to ER-β and dose-dependent tendency to reduce serum E2, along with indication of anabolism in vital organs including the heart, these compounds are certainly not something to run in high-doses year-round. A risk-averse user, particularly with concerns about heart enlargement or HPA inhibition, should not delve into the use of these compounds, even from plant sources, without a full consideration of risk. While ecdysterone has undergone some human testing, its study parameters were narrowly focused. Turkesterone has not undergone any published human testing to this author's knowledge.

Toxicity: The PEs (including ecdysterone and turkesterone) are of very low toxicity. For ecdysterone, it is known that doses below 5μg/kg are ineffective [6]. The LD₅₀ of ecdysterone in humans is impracticably high (in rats, >9 g/kg) [7]. The same is true for turkesterone (in rats, likely >6 g/kg) [7].

Whereas AAS exert a dose-dependent effect to decrease thymus mass, PEs show the opposite effect [2].

The effects are roughly the same in females as in males, extrapolating from rodent data [2]. The PEs do not exert any virilizing influence on females [2].


Key:
†: Leucine and valine inclusion into mice liver [1] citing (14)
‡: change in body weight and the weight of internal organs and skeletal muscles (m. tibialis anterior) in intact pubertal rats [2] citing (6)
§: measured by pulse rate (min/mg) of leucine and valine inclusion into rat organs [2] citing (14)

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References:
[1] Syrov, V. N., Saatov, Z., Sagdullaev, S. S., & Mamatkhanov, A. U. (2001). Study of the structure: anabolic activity relationship for phytoecdysteroids extracted from some plants of Central Asia. Pharmaceutical Chemistry Journal, 35(12), 667–671. doi:10.1023/a:1015344614064
[2] Syrov, V. N. (2000). Comparative experimental investigation of the anabolic activity of phytoecdysteroids and steranabols. Pharmaceutical Chemistry Journal, 34(4), 193–197. doi:10.1007/bf02524596
[3] Mamatkhanov, A. U., Yakubova, M. R., & Syrov, V. N. (1998). Isolation of turkesterone from the epigeal part of Ajuga turkestanica and its anabolic activity. Chemistry of Natural Compounds, 34(2), 150–154. doi:10.1007/bf02249133
[4] Dzhukharova, M. K., Sakhibov, A. D., Kasymov, B., Syrov, V. N., Takanaev, A. A., & Saatov, Z. (1987). Pharmacokinetics of ecdysterone in experiments. Pharmaceutical Chemistry Journal, 21(10), 689–692. doi:10.1007/bf00758127
[5] M McBride, J. (2013). Phytoecdysteroids: A Novel, Non-Androgenic Alternative for Muscle Health and Performance. Journal of Steroids & Hormonal Science, s12(01). doi:10.4172/2157-7536.s12-e001
[6] Isenmann, E., Ambrosio, G., Joseph, J. F., Mazzarino, M., de la Torre, X., Zimmer, P., … Parr, M. K. (2019). Ecdysteroids as non-conventional anabolic agent: performance enhancement by ecdysterone supplementation in humans. Archives of Toxicology, 93(7), 1807–1816. doi:10.1007/s00204-019-02490-x
[7] Bathori, M., Toth, N., Hunyadi, A., Marki, A., & Zador, E. (2008). Phytoecdysteroids and Anabolic-Androgenic Steroids - Structure and Effects on Humans. Current Medicinal Chemistry, 15(1), 75–91. doi:10.2174/092986708783330674
[8] Zeng, Shang, Zhang, Wang, Gu, & Tan. (2019). Combined Use of Deep Eutectic Solvents, Macroporous Resins, and Preparative Liquid Chromatography for the Isolation and Purification of Flavonoids and 20-Hydroxyecdysone from Chenopodium quinoa Willd. Biomolecules, 9(12), 776. doi:10.3390/biom9120776
[9] Odinokov, V. ., Galyautdinov, I. ., Nedopekin, D. ., Khalilov, L. ., Shashkov, A. ., Kachala, V. ., … Lafont, R. (2002). Phytoecdysteroids from the juice of Serratula coronata L. (Asteraceae). Insect Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, 32(2), 161–165. doi:10.1016/s0965-1748(01)00106-0
[10] Hunyadi, A., Herke, I., Lengyel, K. et al. Ecdysteroid-containing food supplements from Cyanotis arachnoidea on the European market: evidence for spinach product counterfeiting. Sci Rep 6, 37322 (2016). https://doi.org/10.1038/srep37322
 
Whereas ecdysterone's net weight gain‡ of 7.9mg * g⁻¹day⁻¹ was comparable to turkesterone's 8.5mg * g⁻¹day⁻¹, turkesterone showed a tendency to increase heart (~+20%) and ventral prostate (~+20%) protein accretion by nearly the same magnitude as in muscle

Isn't this a concern?
 
Whereas ecdysterone's net weight gain‡ of 7.9mg * g⁻¹day⁻¹ was comparable to turkesterone's 8.5mg * g⁻¹day⁻¹, turkesterone showed a tendency to increase heart (~+20%) and ventral prostate (~+20%) protein accretion by nearly the same magnitude as in muscle

Isn't this a concern?
I think it's a mild concern as the growth is physiological rather than pathological. But it's certainly a consideration for long-term chronic use when the use of PEs may coincide with rhGH and AAS use which can cause cardiomyopathy (e.g., left ventricular hypertrophy). It's never been studied directly, but I'd imagine it could, in combination, cause more accelerated pathological growth.
 
This whole thread is awesome and a ton of info. If we can realize the potential protein synthesis via the phyto chems route (20-hydroxyecdysterone or better), and the gene expression with the nuclear bindind of AAS at the AR receptor from androgens or analogues, we could eventually be looking at a nice synergy or cumulative increase in protein synthesis.

Turk is $200 for 30 caps in AUS and NZ.
That's a pretty expensive investment in something that is still very anecdotal <-- drawback
 
I've been reading through a very interesting text titled Phytoecdysteroids: Properties, Biological Activity, and Applications [1], a recently published textbook on the topic of these anabolic agents. I must confess, I am feeling a bit of "this seems too good to be true" and questioning some of this data's trustworthiness given the lack of robust support for these (PEs') efficacy in humans. I'd really like to see if anyone is able to find the cited paper [2] by Syrov apparently published from 2011 that provides for (apparently) efficacious doses of a pharmaceutical preparation that is available in some markets. I don't know whether he holds a financial stake in this product, which would represent a substantial conflict of interest. Anyway, seems Dr. Syrov is alive and well, and still publishing.

I will relay some of the more interesting parts of this textbook.

Biological activity
Postulated to increase general nonspecific resistance of the body to various destabilizing environmental factors [1].

Differences from AAS
Turkesterone & Ponasterone A (Syrov 1996; Okui et al. 1968) compared to steranabols. PEs:
* ↑total blood protein mainly due to albumin
* ↑RBC & Hb in peripheral blood
* stimulation of immune processes
* ↑glutamate decarboxylate (Chaudhan, 1969), acetylcholinesterase (Catalan 1989), Na⁺, K⁺, ATPases, succinate dehydrogenase, LDH (Dzik and Kaczor, 2019), alkaline phosphatase (Coloratsksya, 2004), and other enzyme systems (Tahmukhamedova, 1986a).
* ↓serum urea
[1]

- markedly weakened anabolic effects on animals with a disturbed hormonal background (castration, hypophysectomy) (Syrov 1996).
- no selective anabolic-organotropic action ("whole body anabolism"; not specific to skeletal muscle)
- ...nor androgenic, antigonadotropic, uterotropic, thymolytic activity
- "accelerative of the translation process rather than iRNA synthesis, whereas steranabols primarily effect transcription & increase protein synthesis due to increased ribosomal processes"
[1]

Features
- ↑mental & physical performance, attention, ↓anxiety, improved CNS activity
- glycogen modulating
- normalization of metabolic processes in experimental pathological conditions
- prevention of fatigue syndrome due to mainteained tissue metabolism homeostais and energy production
- skeletal muscle hypertrophy
- ↑physical endurance, ↑sexual behavior, ↑resilience against infection
- hypoglycemic, likely due to activation of synthesis of receptor proteins promoting glucose uptake (increased IR mRNA expression?)... increased lactic & pyruvic acid in tissues (increased oxidative phosphorylation?) (Tashmokhamedova 1986a)
- enhanced activity of glutamate, succinate, NAD-H-dehydrogenases, succinate-NAD-N-oxidase so as to increase oxidative phosphorylation and production of macroergic phosphorus compounds (Almatov, 1985)
- lowered blood cholesterol and triglycerides and inhibits development of severe hypercholesterolemia & hypertriglyceridemia (Mironova et al. 1982; Syrov et al., 1983), lowered aortic atherosclerotic lesion index, improved liver lipid metabolism (Syrov et al., 1983; Matsuda, 1979)... hypothesized to increase triglyceride lipase
- restores mitochondrial derangement (Mirtalipov, 1990)
- inhibits lipid peroxidation (Kim et al., 2009)
- modulates potassium (Golovatskaya, 2004)
- Ecdysterone may enhance K⁺ and H⁺ transport against electrochemical gradients (Golovatskaya, 2004)
- membrane-stabilizing effect promoting anti-inflammatory effects (↑resistance index per acid erythrograms) (")
- ↑TSH & fT4 (serum); GH, T slightly ↑; corticosterone ↑
- ↑CNS/EEG activity, ↑potentials, ↓amplitude in cortex, ordering of potentials in subcortical formations
- Ecdysterone prevented development of calcium-induced arrhythmias, death from arrythmogens
- improved liver bile secretion
- normalization of creatine phosphate & glycogen in heart muscle in experimental myocarditis

Use in sports medicine
There is a general strengthening and protein-anabolic effect on the body as a whole. It was shown that the use of a pharmaceutical PE preparation by athletes accelerated recovery and adaptation to physical training in athletes during the preparatory and competitive periods. According to self-assessment questionnaires, athletes perceived less fatigue during stress, improved load tolerance, decreased apathy and irritation with maximal loads, and a quick relief of fatigue. The effect, as a rule, was detected at 4-5 days from the start of the drug.

The study results showed:
- increased muscle mass, decreased fat mass
- Nitrogen retention increased
- normalization of urea and lactate in blood after exercise
- increased Haemoglobin and serum protein
- ostensibly synergistic with heptamine (Emirova et al. 2004)
- anti-catabolic in cyclic sport with large volumes
[2] cited by [1]

Risks
Fibrinolytic (pronounced): increased prostaglandin-F₂ (liver, heart, blood plasma); ↑cAMP in the heart, ↑adrenergic activity (at least in spleen slices) (Syrov et al., 1989) [1]

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References:
[1] Yusupova, U.Y., Ramazonov, N.S., Syrov, V.N., Sagdullaev, S.S. (2021). Phytoecdysteroids: Properties, Biological Activity, and Applications. Springer. ISBN 978-981-16-6710-7.
[2] Syrov V.N., Khushbaktova Z.A., Dzhakhangirova M.A., Sharipov A.K. (2011). Ecdysteroid-containing drugs and dosed physical activity in the training of athletes. Leader Press, Tashkent, p. 250.
 
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