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Luckily in Louisiana it's over the counter , we have to sign for it like other cold medicine and can only get a box like once a month
I know several people that buy it every chance they get all year to stock up , some even sell it.

I just don't get why ephedrine isn't more popular, considering the huge PWO market. The mood boosting qualities are just right, they are there but not so strong that it's going to be an issue for the most part. The whole supplement market used to be built around ephedrine basically. But people forgot about it

I don't know why anyone would diet without this stuff. Well I can but for me it's night and day.
 

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I just don't get why ephedrine isn't more popular, considering the huge PWO market. The mood boosting qualities are just right, they are there but not so strong that it's going to be an issue for the most part. The whole supplement market used to be built around ephedrine basically. But people forgot about it

I don't know why anyone would diet without this stuff. Well I can but for me it's night and day.
Agreed. It's underrated.
 

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I just don't get why ephedrine isn't more popular, considering the huge PWO market. The mood boosting qualities are just right, they are there but not so strong that it's going to be an issue for the most part. The whole supplement market used to be built around ephedrine basically. But people forgot about it

I don't know why anyone would diet without this stuff. Well I can but for me it's night and day.
For me personally, I try to avoid stimulants, period. Perhaps it's just because of past heart issues and wanting to avoid things like raise heart rate and blood pressure, but I also don't like the potential for metabolic addiction/weight gain rebound, needing ever increasing dosages, elevated cortisol, becoming dependent on it for various things, etc. I'm also not sure how helpful it is beyond appetite suppression and personally I'm not hungry during the day, only at night, and I'm not going to take ephedrine at night and disrupt my sleep, so.
 

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I just don't get why ephedrine isn't more popular, considering the huge PWO market. The mood boosting qualities are just right, they are there but not so strong that it's going to be an issue for the most part. The whole supplement market used to be built around ephedrine basically. But people forgot about it

I don't know why anyone would diet without this stuff. Well I can but for me it's night and day.

I think it's because it difficult to get now due to it being made into meth , makes me wonder if the meth monkeys ever tried making it with clen , like "Meth ER"
I personally prefer it because it's short half life and apatite blunting effects.
 

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For me personally, I try to avoid stimulants, period. Perhaps it's just because of past heart issues and wanting to avoid things like raise heart rate and blood pressure, but I also don't like the potential for metabolic addiction/weight gain rebound, needing ever increasing dosages, elevated cortisol, becoming dependent on it for various things, etc. I'm also not sure how helpful it is beyond appetite suppression and personally I'm not hungry during the day, only at night, and I'm not going to take ephedrine at night and disrupt my sleep, so.
good post brother, luckily you stay pretty lean so i would also say screw the stims. too many cons vs pros as you mentioned
 

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Ephedrine hard is hell to come by in many countries. I have hardly seen it in the last 15 years. If you know how popular it was you know authorities clamped down on it hard. The ECA stacks you can google are a scam, there is no ephedrine in them. The label says "ephedra leaves" - inert product.

Whilst it is much harder to find than it was 15 years ago there are still quite a few products available. I don't mean the bullshit ephedra leaves stuff either. Although I am not a huge fan and that's why I haven't barely used it for over a decade.
 

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For me personally, I try to avoid stimulants, period. Perhaps it's just because of past heart issues and wanting to avoid things like raise heart rate and blood pressure, but I also don't like the potential for metabolic addiction/weight gain rebound, needing ever increasing dosages, elevated cortisol, becoming dependent on it for various things, etc. I'm also not sure how helpful it is beyond appetite suppression and personally I'm not hungry during the day, only at night, and I'm not going to take ephedrine at night and disrupt my sleep, so.
I use stimulants liberally and I fully agree with what you're saying here. The con's do outweigh the pro's, especially long term.

Even though that is not going to stop me from using them liberally 😜
 

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At these doses you dont have any issue to urinate ??
Ephedrine is fantastic for cutting when you have a job that require your brain to be running all But the vasoconstriction is really making it hard to pee even at 25mg injectable a day for me Use cialis helps a bit
Any advice ?
 

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At these doses you dont have any issue to urinate ??
Ephedrine is fantastic for cutting when you have a job that require your brain to be running all But the vasoconstriction is really making it hard to pee even at 25mg injectable a day for me Use cialis helps a bit
Any advice ?
That's not from vasoconstriction. That's prostatitis. Or BPH.
 

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That's not from vasoconstriction. That's prostatitis. Or BPH.
I doubt this very much brother. It probably is due to vasoconstriction (and Cialis would help this by inhibiting PDE-5 & increasing NO). Ephedrine has been demonstrated as an effective agent in treatment of urinary incontinence. Note, too, that abuse of ephedrine & guaifenesin in combination (e.g., Bronkaid & Primatene [US]) can induce urinary stones (nephrolithiasis). Hopefully, the poster is not dealing with this.

Yet another major contributor to urinary hesitancy/retention worth mentioning is kratom (or opiate/opioid use). It's unfortunate how often I see guys with increased SHBG & castrate-level free T (low FAI) that started taking kratom because it was popular in bodybuilding circles years ago and they never were able to stop.

I should mention again that BPH induced by androgens is shockingly rare (even supra-physiological testosterone & BPH are not highly associated; rather it is at physiologic versus null levels that BPH arises). I wrote about this issue here: [link] (mostly relates to dismissing the associations between Tren & BPH, but discusses T & AAS generally therein as well).
 

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I doubt this very much brother. It probably is due to vasoconstriction (and Cialis would help this by inhibiting PDE-5 & increasing NO). Ephedrine has been demonstrated as an effective agent in treatment of urinary incontinence. Note, too, that abuse of ephedrine & guaifenesin in combination (e.g., Bronkaid & Primatene [US]) can induce urinary stones (nephrolithiasis). Hopefully, the poster is not dealing with this.

Yet another major contributor to urinary hesitancy/retention worth mentioning is kratom (or opiate/opioid use). It's unfortunate how often I see guys with increased SHBG & castrate-level free T (low FAI) that started taking kratom because it was popular in bodybuilding circles years ago and they never were able to stop.

I should mention again that BPH induced by androgens is shockingly rare (even supra-physiological testosterone & BPH are not highly associated; rather it is at physiologic versus null levels that BPH arises). I wrote about this issue here: [link] (mostly relates to dismissing the associations between Tren & BPH, but discusses T & AAS generally therein as well).
I suppose ephedrine vasoconstriction (combined with caffeine vasoconstriction) could cause various sphincter tightening in those with already dysfunctional sphincter muscle tissue (urinary or rectal) but of the hundreds of otherwise fully continent people, I have never seen a case of ephedrine-related urinary or bowel obstruction in otherwise healthy individuals. Prostatitis was almost always the cause.
 

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Last time I checked my PSA was extremely low for my age let alone for a bodybuilder taking masteron on regular basis but not sure BPH PSA are related
Symptoms subsides If I take 2 days off ephedrine and appeared when I started
 

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Last time I checked my PSA was extremely low for my age let alone for a bodybuilder taking masteron on regular basis but not sure BPH PSA are related
Symptoms subsides If I take 2 days off ephedrine and appeared when I started
What is your approx age?
 

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Love ephedrine+ caff even with yohimbine thrown in pre fasted cardio. Haven't used it in a while but I agree with others that it gets a bad rap and people worry about it being unhealthy yet we take other things (dnp, slin, gh at dosages that raise glucose, superdrol, expiramental peptides). I almost feel like I see more dnp thread's than ephedrine, when 15 years ago everyone took ephedrine and only the crazy took or knew where to get dnp.

Imagine if that Orioles pitcher hadn't died we may have actual fat burners on store shelves that work.
 

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Type-IIx is probably correct in your case if the issue subsides upon cessation of ephedrine. An ECY stack most likely may not be your best option. Still, at our age, a prostate checkup may not be the worst thing you could get.
 

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That's not from vasoconstriction. That's prostatitis. Or BPH.
Yea it’s vasoconstriction but stims or at least for me caffeine and ephedra make me piss even if my prostate gets agitated, I’d say your dehydrated or you’ve got too much DHT and maybe just to be safe get your PSA checked. When I prep on ephedra I piss about every 45 min.
 

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Yea it’s vasoconstriction but stims or at least for me caffeine and ephedra make me piss even if my prostate gets agitated, I’d say your dehydrated or you’ve got too much DHT and maybe just to be safe get your PSA checked. When I prep on ephedra I piss about every 45 min.
Yeah, I'm drinking spring water by the gallon daily. Pissing every 30 minutes, and it sounds like a racehorse. I had 25 aunts and uncles (seriously) and two uncles got prostate cancer so I get checked regularly. It's not fun but after having prostatitis all those years ago, now I'm hyper-alert about my stream. That sucked so bad. Plus I had to take Levaquin for 2 weeks. I was put of commission for months. Now I do caffeine and ephedrine (bronkaid), and aspirin and I have an albuterol inhaler. Yohimbe messes me up though. Can't do it. Gives me a splitting headache.
 

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You are very right
Using a lot of dht and maybe not enouugh water and electolytes indeed
Will check PSA after break coming into off season and echo most probably anyway too !!
Thx
 

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You are very right
Using a lot of dht and maybe not enouugh water and electolytes indeed
Will check PSA after break coming into off season and echo most probably anyway too !!
Thx
You bet bro it’s a guess but an easy start maybe an easy answer
 

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