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Erection and libido problems on first Tren cycle

drew82

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Age: 34
Lifting experience: Been training consistently for hypertrophy for the last 3 years but have been involved with weights since 18 as I was in the high school sprint team and then pursued Crossfit recreationally in my mid-late 20s.
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 190 lbs
Body fat: 14.5%
Previous cycles: Four previous cycles mainly consisting of varying doses of Primo, Anavar, Masteron and Proviron. I'm also on doc prescribed TRT @ 200mg Test Cypionate per week.

Current 6 week blast (on week 1 right now):
Tren Ace: 350 mg/wk (taking 50 mg/day)
Test Cypionate: 200 mg/wk divided in two 100 mg doses
Cabergoline: 0.5 mg 2x weekly
Arimidex: 1 mg every other day (part of TRT prescription)
Proviron: 50 mg/day
Goals: Body recomposition
Diet: I follow a modified keto diet year round with 50-60% fat, 30-40% protein, 10% carbs.


Hi guys,

I need some advice on improving my libido on my first Tren cycle. I've been on it for the last 7 days. I feel great and have been noticing improved vascularity already with slight strength increase. I got slight insomnia and increased body heat the same day I started the cycle but that has been manageable. I'm pretty mellow anyway so Tren hasn't given me anger, just more assertiveness and confidence. So far so good. In the last 3 days however I've been fighting libido and erection issues. I can't get erect even with high dose Cialis, my organ's sensitivity is shot dead and I can't ejaculate (sorry for being graphic). This is very frustrating especially considering that many Tren users report super high libido.

Questions:

1. In general how should I go about fixing this issue? Is there *any* way out?
2. Should I ramp the Test level higher? I read here and at other places that most users keep the Test low and push Tren higher hence I've maintained this ratio. Should I invert the ratio by pushing Tren lower to 200 mg/wk and Test higher to 350 mg/wk?
3. Should I keep the current ratio (low test, high tren) but consider using Test Propionate?
4. Can extremely low Estradiol resulting from aggressive Arimidex use be causing this? My TRT doc doesn't like my Estradiol level at 38 and has asked me to take Arimidex at 1mg EOD. I wasn't taking Arimidex at all before starting this blast but the blast's start coincided with my TRT doc check-in and I started taking Arimidex the next day. Can the Estradiol levels be shot in just three 1mg Arimidex doses, and can low Estradiol cause such severe erection problems? Looks like many TRT docs prescribe Arimidex at this dose so I'm inclined to think that this would not be the culprit.
5. I have added 50 mg/day of Proviron to help me out. I was also considering adding Masteron to further combat the issue. Will that help? Although I feel excellent on Masteron it makes my hair shed so I'd like to avoid it if possible.

Overall I'm looking for the least amount of chemicals in my system other than Tren and Test for the next 6 weeks which can help me with libido. I can experiment and try to find something which works, but rather than flooding my body with stuff I'd like to hear your opinion to make a more informed decision. Hence, any advice will be very appreciated.

Thanks for reading.
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Estrogen levels play a big role in ED period...Best for some of the more advanded vets to chime in on this brother...I don't run Tren period due to just lethargy and Mild Erection problems (Not hard as a rock as always is)but never ran Caber either... Hope I helped a lil bit brother...
 

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Maybe your Cialis is bunk.

I've had issues with getting hard and ejaculation - the reason was my estrogen was too high.

I would do the arimedex @.5mg a day (helped me immensely) and try Viagra out too.

As far as test/tren I run them equal, never seen an advantage with lower test. Never had an issue with prolactin even on 700mg tren, so I can't give you advice on caber. Your doses are fairly low, I would expect the arimedex at
.5mg a day to do its job.

Estrogen sucks to regulate, you need to find the sweet spot for your aas dosage. If it's too high it can cause loss of libido and erection issues, it can do the exact same when your too low. In your case I think .5mg ed of the arimedex is the answer.

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did you google TREN=DEVIL before your "first cycle of tren"....?????



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Maybe your Cialis is bunk.

I've had issues with getting hard and ejaculation - the reason was my estrogen was too high.

I would do the arimedex @.5mg a day (helped me immensely) and try Viagra out too.

As far as test/tren I run them equal, never seen an advantage with lower test. Never had an issue with prolactin even on 700mg tren, so I can't give you advice on caber. Your doses are fairly low, I would expect the arimedex at
.5mg a day to do its job.

Estrogen sucks to regulate, you need to find the sweet spot for your aas dosage. If it's too high it can cause loss of libido and erection issues, it can do the exact same when your too low. In your case I think .5mg ed of the arimedex is the answer.

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Thanks, I'll try a different site to get Cialis to rule it out.

Arimidex has a half life of 46 hours. Rather than taking 1mg EOD, how will taking 0.5mg every day help?
 

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did you google TREN=DEVIL before your "first cycle of tren"....?????



:cool:
Not the devil part, but yeah I've done my homework on it. I understand this is powerful stuff and I want to treat it with caution.
 

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Thanks, I'll try a different site to get Cialis to rule it out.

Arimidex has a half life of 46 hours. Rather than taking 1mg EOD, how will taking 0.5mg every day help?
It might be useful to take 0.5 mg/day and I'll give it a shot. One study found that Estradiol levels dropped by 50% whether the subjects took 0.5mg or 1.0 mg Arimidex every day. Since my Estradiol is 38 taking 0.5 mg/day should bring it down to 19, which is in desirable range.

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/artic...trogen-Suppression-in-Males-Metabolic-Effects

"...a dose-response study of 12 males (mean age, 16.1 ± 0.3 yr) was conducted, and blood withdrawn at baseline and after 10 days of oral Arimidex given as two different doses (either 0.5 or 1 mg) in random order with a 14-day washout in between. A sensitive estradiol (E2) assay showed an approximately 50% decrease in E2 concentrations with either of the two doses..."
 

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jesus man i wish i understood what your saying ,the second i put tren in my body, you can expect raging hard ons and needing sex 3 to 4 times a day, its almost laughable the sex drive increase, testosterone has got nothing on tren, but everyone is different ,me on tren id fuck a 400lb troll, excuse my french but its the truth
 

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jesus man i wish i understood what your saying ,the second i put tren in my body, you can expect raging hard ons and needing sex 3 to 4 times a day, its almost laughable the sex drive increase, testosterone has got nothing on tren, but everyone is different ,me on tren id fuck a 400lb troll, excuse my french but its the truth
LOL. Bro, how much Tren and Test do you run which makes you a crazy sexual athlete?
 

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Your arimidex dose is very high for only being on 200mg of cyp. I wouldn't even run an AI at all at that dose. Avoid an AI if at all possible. But there's a chance your estro could be too low.

And from the sound of it your prolactin is high and possibly your progesterone is off.

Blood work will tell.



Tren puts my libido thru the roof, so it's hard for me to grasp when guys are having libido issues on Tren, when I run tren however I keep my test dose higher usually around 500mg and Tren 300mg(some guys prefer the opposite but this is what works best for me). I don't even run prami/caber when on tren typically. Deca treats me a little different though.
 

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Thanks, I'll try a different site to get Cialis to rule it out.

Arimidex has a half life of 46 hours. Rather than taking 1mg EOD, how will taking 0.5mg every day help?
Less of a swing in estrogen, meaning less sides that come along with it.

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jesus man i wish i understood what your saying ,the second i put tren in my body, you can expect raging hard ons and needing sex 3 to 4 times a day, its almost laughable the sex drive increase, testosterone has got nothing on tren, but everyone is different ,me on tren id fuck a 400lb troll, excuse my french but its the truth
Im the same way. If I even SMELL tren, im like a rabbit...
 

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If your taking 1mg of adex everyday on 200 mg of test the tren isn't the problem your crushed estrogen is

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Is your caber legit? in my experience when I've had erectile issues with tren adding .5 mg x 2 per week of caber helped pretty emmensely

I'd also lower the dosage of adex as others are suggesting
 

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Thanks guys for your input, really appreciate it. In general I think this is low Estradiol issue since way back when I started TRT, I got similar side effects from taking Arimidex at the same dose currently (1mg EOD). When I cut it out I felt much better and my libido was great.

The reason I started Arimidex again at this dose was, 1) my estradiol was 38 in the recent lab work which the doctor didn't like at all and asked me to take it, and 2) I was being extra cautious given Tren's gyno inducing nature

I'm going stop Arimidex for a week and then use it at 0.5 mg the days of Test Cyp injection (I do 2x wk). Ideally I'd like to use Arimidex at 0.25 mg every 3 days or something like that but the tabs are so small and difficult to cut.

Let's see if this helps. Thanks again for all your help. This is a great forum!
 

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Thanks guys for your input, really appreciate it. In general I think this is low Estradiol issue since way back when I started TRT, I got similar side effects from taking Arimidex at the same dose currently (1mg EOD). When I cut it out I felt much better and my libido was great.

The reason I started Arimidex again at this dose was, 1) my estradiol was 38 in the recent lab work which the doctor didn't like at all and asked me to take it, and 2) I was being extra cautious given Tren's gyno inducing nature

I'm going stop Arimidex for a week and then use it at 0.5 mg the days of Test Cyp injection (I do 2x wk). Ideally I'd like to use Arimidex at 0.25 mg every 3 days or something like that but the tabs are so small and difficult to cut.

Let's see if this helps. Thanks again for all your help. This is a great forum!
Tren actually doesn't have any estrogenic side effects and does not aromatize.. You're on 200mg of Test and your AI is too high so you crashed your estrogen. On exactly what you are taking I wouldn't need to run an AI at all.

.25mg E3D is probably a good idea for you, and just have prami or caber on hand encase.

Adex never agreed with me though so I stick to aromasin when I need it. But it's good to dose it ED.
 
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Tren actually doesn't have any estrogenic side effects and does not aromatize.. You're on 200mg of Test and your AI is too high so you crashed your estrogen. On exactly what you are taking I wouldn't need to run an AI at all.

.25mg E3D is probably a good idea for you, and just have prami or caber on hand encase.

Adex never agreed with me though so I stick to aromasin when I need it. But it's good to dose it ED.
Correct me if I'm wrong - if you control your estrogen while on tren, progesterone gyno won't flare up, but if it's raised it can cause prog. Gyno to be 2-3 times as bad.



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Correct me if I'm wrong - if you control your estrogen while on tren, progesterone gyno won't flare up, but if it's raised it can cause prog. Gyno to be 2-3 times as bad.



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Well you obviously always want to make sure your estrogen never gets too far out of range. That's something I am constantly monitoring.

But with Tren, little research/studies have been done on it so much is anecdotal.

My logic is you keep your prolactin in check and you don't have to worry about high progesterone related side effects. So I'm not exactly certain if high e2 while on tren = progesterone sides.

Personally the only time I ever had negative sides from tren, my prolactin was high. The gyno symptoms and libido/erection issues are different than just having high e2. I can only imagine that if e2 AND prolactin is elevated then progesterone related sides will be worse..

We're our own guinea pigs when it comes to Trenbolone.
 

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jesus man i wish i understood what your saying ,the second i put tren in my body, you can expect raging hard ons and needing sex 3 to 4 times a day, its almost laughable the sex drive increase, testosterone has got nothing on tren, but everyone is different ,me on tren id fuck a 400lb troll, excuse my french but its the truth
:yeahthat:Same with me. Never had any sex drive issues on tren what so ever. complete animal when it came to that.
 

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