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Correct.When you say “not as good” are you just saying not as micronutrient dense?
Correct.When you say “not as good” are you just saying not as micronutrient dense?
Whey has a very good amino acid profile, so it’s as complete of a protein as we could hope for. I prefer to use as many protein sources as possible because each has unique micronutrients. But this idea that you’ll gain more muscle eating chicken/beef as opposite to drinking whey is not based on any evidence at allI haven't done that deep of a dive on the subject but I also mentioned egg white specifically because as I understand it the yolk has the real nutritive value. If we compared whey also to for example tuna in a can my hunch is that the whey might outperform tuna as "nutrition" and in their effects on health, as whey can improve immunity and so on. So whey could sometimes be a superior protein source. I also am not clear on the nutritive difference between a whey concentrate and isolate, but I do remember some experts back in the day saying to choose concentrate if you tolerate it as concentrate has some "fractions" that are good and healthy, which are lost in further processing? Whey seems to be the gold standard in the medical establishment as most of the food replacements and complete nutrition solutions in hospital care are whey based from what I've seen, with sometimes complete micronutrients added so patients can live on them exclusively for a period of time if necessary. Some experts seem to think you perhaps should add whey to your diet just for the health benefits, not just for the protein grams per se. Many lifters say they noticed no physique deterioration if they stopped whey shakes which they take to mean whey is crap, but I think there are many potential confounders in a situation like that, doesn't mean "whey doesn't work."
Whey has a very good amino acid profile, so it’s as complete of a protein as we could hope for. I prefer to use as many protein sources as possible because each has unique micronutrients. But this idea that you’ll gain more muscle eating chicken/beef as opposite to drinking whey is not based on any evidence at all
I think it may be important because in beef you will find for example a lot of zinc or creatine which you will not find in whey powder although you can argue here because there is no clear evidence that one or the other is superior.Whey has a very good amino acid profile, so it’s as complete of a protein as we could hope for. I prefer to use as many protein sources as possible because each has unique micronutrients. But this idea that you’ll gain more muscle eating chicken/beef as opposite to drinking whey is not based on any evidence at all
Not sure if this is a big thing in Poland, but in the US I’ve seen more companies adding vitamins and minerals as well to their whey blends (example https://a.co/d/du6k4cr)I think it may be important because in beef you will find for example a lot of zinc or creatine which you will not find in whey powder although you can argue here because there is no clear evidence that one or the other is superior.
although this does not change the fact that I would rather eat a solid portion of meat than drink 50g of powder - I feel like a fitness girl with a shaker in my hand instead of a rare steak on my fork lol
Yes, I know, but I am of the opinion that all vitamins, minerals, microelements of natural origin are absorbed better than their synthetic counterparts - of course this is just my theory and it may have nothing to do with the truth but since my diet consists of 95% of natural unprocessed food, my blood work, well-being, insulin sensitivity, sleep, energy level are better when I had a lot of processed products or a lot of additional unnecessary supplements in my dietNot sure if this is a big thing in Poland, but in the US I’ve seen more companies adding vitamins and minerals as well to their whey blends (example https://a.co/d/du6k4cr)
This is also my opinion and I often like to combine two sources, e.g. eggs + chicken or beef + turkey in one meal, and I like to do the same with carbohydrates.Vary your protein sources to vary your amino acid profile.
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I’m inclined to agree, otherwise I think we’d see people getting a lot more out of multivitamins lolYes, I know, but I am of the opinion that all vitamins, minerals, microelements of natural origin are absorbed better than their synthetic counterparts - of course this is just my theory and it may have nothing to do with the truth but since my diet consists of 95% of natural unprocessed food, my blood work, well-being, insulin sensitivity, sleep, energy level are better when I had a lot of processed products or a lot of additional unnecessary supplements in my diet
I have always liked doing this too, not only for the added array of nutrients but when portion sizes get larger I feel it helps making the meal less of a choir mentally to get taken.This is also my opinion and I often like to combine two sources, e.g. eggs + chicken or beef + turkey in one meal, and I like to do the same with carbohydrates.
No doubt that it’s better to have a variety of protein sources for general health reasons. Also, it’s boring and un-satisfying to just have whey all the time. It is fun to mix some whey in oatmeal or Greek Yogurt sometimes though.I think it may be important because in beef you will find for example a lot of zinc or creatine which you will not find in whey powder although you can argue here because there is no clear evidence that one or the other is superior.
although this does not change the fact that I would rather eat a solid portion of meat than drink 50g of powder - I feel like a fitness girl with a shaker in my hand instead of a rare steak on my fork lol
No doubt that it’s better to have a variety of protein sources for general health reasons. Also, it’s boring and un-satisfying to just have whey all the time. It is fun to mix some whey in oatmeal or Greek Yogurt sometimes though.
Speaking from a purely anabolic standpoint, however, I don’t think it’ll move the needle much one way or another.
If you lipids get destroyed on "high" primo or masteron then you are not following the safer use model. Do not use "high primo or masteron if it fucks up your blood work! Walk all anabolics up to your safe "tolerable" dosage.i wish this topic would have been put on blast when this whole safer use protocol stuff became all the rage. My exact question from the jump was how the hell does anyone know that higher test with a need for a little ai is more unsafe than blasting 500mg+ of primo or masteron with no ai. The answer would be bloodwork. I have yet to ever run across someone who has said their bloodwork looks better on say 300 test 800 primo than 750 test with ai. Some of these safer use model dudes are doing up to 1g primo but hey no ai right. Super safe or something. Lol my lipids get destroyed on high primo or masteron along with others i know as well. Safer use how exactly?
It is insane to me how the good benefit of a statin can overpower the LDL rise from AAS. I used 50mg anavar and my LDL was 41 while 5mg rosuvastatin and 10mg ezetimibe were in there. HDL went down to 26 but the LDL didn't move. Cool stuff.On the topic of lipids I naturally have always had a high ldl (160) no matter what I did or how clean I ate. Been on rosuvastatin for 6 months now which dropped it immediately with no side effects. Started a fairly heavy cycle in February, test primo tren and anavar which will absolutely skyrocket ldl in most people. Just got bloods back ldl was only 90 which is crazy I bet it would have been 200+ without the statin.
Discohornet was sharp! Rest In Peace to him.Sorry guys i had the name wrong, it was not Yellowjacket but a guy named Discohornet who was going up and down pro muscle a decade plus ago talking about Telmisartan. So this VB guy who wants to take credit all up and down the internet over the last 3 years that he was the person who introduced Telmisartan to the bodybuilding community is a fool. It has been talked about here on Pro Muscle for a decade plus.
Agreed taking 10 mgs rosuvastatin on these short 4-5 week cycles. Hdl went from 17 to 27. Helps a lot.It is insane to me how the good benefit of a statin can overpower the LDL rise from AAS. I used 50mg anavar and my LDL was 41 while 5mg rosuvastatin and 10mg ezetimibe were in there. HDL went down to 26 but the LDL didn't move. Cool stuff.