? for bb judges

edge250 · Dec 6, 2005

how are competitors with muscle tears/injuries viewed. obviously it is a flaw and can hurt a competitors symetry, just curious of how severe of a mark down it is. thank you

flexmaster · Dec 6, 2005

im not a judge, but i have asked the same question of a competitor and she said they ideally be judged as if the torn muscle was as good as the other side. for example lets say you do a front dbl bi and you have a torn right bicep...you should be judged on the basis that if it were not torn, it would be as good as your left bicep.

edge250 · Dec 6, 2005

thank you for the response and i hope what you say is true. i have a torn pec/ruptured tendon that was repaired but from the severity of the injury i dont have an outter sweep to my right pec. i love to compete and did pretty good before getting injured. just wondered how the judges react to such circumstances as i would love to atleast do it one more time, there is nothing more motivating than training for show. i just dont wanna get up there and be place 10th and not compared to anyone because of something i have no control over.

HELLA SWOLE · Dec 6, 2005

i"m sure some more judges might view your post and you would get more responses if you posted this in the judges critique forum.

edge250 · Dec 7, 2005

i was under the impression that section was only for pictures for the judges to critique, if not could a mod move this thread.

VulgarDisplay · Dec 7, 2005

flexmaster said:
im not a judge, but i have asked the same question of a competitor and she said they ideally be judged as if the torn muscle was as good as the other side. for example lets say you do a front dbl bi and you have a torn right bicep...you should be judged on the basis that if it were not torn, it would be as good as your left bicep.

I disagree 100%. To tear a muscle is unfortunate but a reality. This is a Physique Contest...you cannot overlook any deficiency, you must judge the entire physique. That would be like saying because someone has very poor pectoral genetics we should judge him as though he had a great chest, or because someone has no calf genetics judge them from the knees up. This is about the total package we bring to the stage not about what we could or should look like in a perfect world.

Ironmanjay · Dec 7, 2005

A friend of mine tore some part of his pec muscle 2 wks before his show but still competed and he asked a judge if he would of placed higher if it wasnt for the tear the the judge said he would of been 2nd instead of 3rd place. So yeah unforunately it does affect your score.

flexmaster · Dec 7, 2005

VulgarDisplay said:
I disagree 100%. To tear a muscle is unfortunate but a reality. This is a Physique Contest...you cannot overlook any deficiency, you must judge the entire physique. That would be like saying because someone has very poor pectoral genetics we should judge him as though he had a great chest, or because someone has no calf genetics judge them from the knees up. This is about the total package we bring to the stage not about what we could or should look like in a perfect world.

ok, good to know. i didn't know for sure...because the peson i talked with was a competitor not a judge. thanks for clarifying!

xcelbeyond · Dec 7, 2005

Vulgar would know, at least for "our" area, as he's a judge at many of those contests

Strunk · Dec 7, 2005

On the State level it shouldn't matter that much. On the National level it could become a factor, but if you look at the light-heavyweight winner from Nats this year...take a look at his right chest as it's torn. Also, I judged a guy this year that had a torn quad and he won his class and overall at the State show. Liek Vulgar said..it the whole package.

edge250 · Dec 7, 2005

thanks so much guys, i would do no more than a state level show as i agree
its the whole package" and i would have to be 110% to compete at a level higher than that and unfortunately no matter i would do i couldnt get there because of it (the injury) i just didnt wanna go balls to the wall for 16 weeks and not get compared or called out. yea i just wanna compete but in the back of my mind i wanna win like everyone else.