Found Old Vials of Test - Are they still OK?

[PaulKersey]

I found some vials of Test E, Test C, and Tren that are ....five years old! Had put then aside (they've been a cool, dry place the whole time) and forgot about them, have done other experiments since but for some reason forgot about these. What the Hell was I thinking - or not thinking? Anyway, I'm sure everyone knows what's coming...

Are they still good? I would think so, but I'm double-checking with the fine folks here who have vastly more knowledge than I do about these things. Thanks in advance!

 

[little slice]

AFAIK, the concern about old gear is microbes and bacteria and shit...


..not potency




I would start with pinning .5ml just to be careful.

 

[PaulKersey]

AFAIK, the concern about old gear is microbes and bacteria and shit...


..not potency




I would start with pinning .5ml just to be careful.

Thanks! Wasn't sure if I needed to resort to "heating" the stuff or just trying a small bit to make sure the wildlife hadn't gone crazy. Everything looks clean and clear, but that doesn't mean anything.

 

[Big Dave Smith]

Honestly, it depends on the carrier oil. Grape seed doesn't hold up well at all. Other oils won't spoil as easily.

I have cialis from 2007. Still works! LOL!


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[bill2]

If it's pharm made usually meds ( pills and injectables) lasts theoretically a century
And even after that maybe starting to loose a bit of potency little by little as years go by ...


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[bad rad]

Thanks! Wasn't sure if I needed to resort to "heating" the stuff or just trying a small bit to make sure the wildlife hadn't gone crazy. Everything looks clean and clear, but that doesn't mean anything.

I've got a lot of older gear and no issues. You could always bake it at 200* F for an hour. Vent the bottle.

 

[grizzly978]

I've got a lot of older gear and no issues. You could always bake it at 200* F for an hour. Vent the bottle.

Would he be better off getting a Watson filter? Not sure if the baking would damage the hormone. Maybe someone with a better chem background can chime in

 

[maldorf]

Would he be better off getting a Watson filter? Not sure if the baking would damage the hormone. Maybe someone with a better chem background can chime in

Baking wont hurt the hormone when done at around 300 degrees f or so. Just have to keep temp below the boiling point of the hormone I believe. I have done it plenty of times. You will need to vent the vial though with a needle so that it doesn't explode/pop off the stopper. He may not need to do that but I don't think it would hurt.

Main thing I would worry about is if the carrier oil has spoiled. I always used cottonseed oil. I think that is the most common. I think grapeseed oil has a slight greenish tint to it?

 

[bad rad]

Baking wont hurt the hormone when done at around 300 degrees f or so. Just have to keep temp below the boiling point of the hormone I believe. I have done it plenty of times. You will need to vent the vial though with a needle so that it doesn't explode/pop off the stopper. He may not need to do that but I don't think it would hurt.

Main thing I would worry about is if the carrier oil has spoiled. I always used cottonseed oil. I think that is the most common. I think grapeseed oil has a slight greenish tint to it?

Grape seed oil does have slight green tint. I've never noticed a difference in potency after heating it to sterilize a vial. A filter would work too but more involved.

 

[PaulKersey]

Thanks for the responses! I had thought about baking the vials. Not sure I'd want to spend the time running things through a Watson, etc.

If I baked the vials, would I have to add additional anti-bacterial just in case? Yeah, other questions always come up.

 

[thumper08]

The UG test I was cruising on recently was around three years old and from a board sponsor. I baked it and had no issues with sterility or potency.

 

[XstarchildX]

I'd pin it as long as it didn't look all funky and discolored .

 

[Obeast88]

I would just pin it at low dose for a couple pins to see if anything happens i on the other l hand have used old gear without a problem and good gainz..best of luck

 

[Matsuo Munefusa]

Heat may very well kill the bacteria but will not remove some of the bacterial toxins that are a by-product of the bacteria....for this you would need a filter.

However, hormones are very inexpensive these days, so why wouldn't you just purchase pre-made oil or purchase raw hormones and make your own fresh filtered oil?

 

[Matsuo Munefusa]

I would just pin it at low dose for a couple pins to see if anything happens i on the other l hand have used old gear without a problem and good gainz..best of luck

thats a great idea.....

 

[heavyhitter]

eh....id use it. You can bake it if you want the peace of mind...but it should be just fine. Especially if the stoppers were never pierced with a needle

 

[bad rad]

eh....id use it. You can bake it if you want the peace of mind...but it should be just fine. Especially if the stoppers were never pierced with a needle

This is key. Once it's been pierced I always finish the bottle to prevent possible contamination.

 

[PaulKersey]

eh....id use it. You can bake it if you want the peace of mind...but it should be just fine. Especially if the stoppers were never pierced with a needle

Thanks again to everyone for their input.

I kind of had the feeling that sealed vials would be OK. But edgy a bit "just because". We'll find out Monday am when the experiment begins. :headbang:

 

[Ashop]

If it's pharm made usually meds ( pills and injectables) lasts theoretically a century
And even after that maybe starting to loose a bit of potency little by little as years go by ...


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I mention this often,,but I have had gear tested that was 5 yrs past expire that came back 100% label strength. Proper storage I believe are the key.(dark,cool,dry area)

 

[Bigunitny]

Garbage buy new gear its dirt cheap these days


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