Front Loading Test

[witefall]

Just FYI, not advice or recommendation.

I thought I'd post about my experience. A little history: 5'9" and currently 205, 32" waist jeans, haven't measured bf in quite a while but use how my jeans fit as a good reference; lifting for many years, mostly mix of olympic and powerlifting, I rarely focus on bodybuilding but have maintained a physique close to that of Steve Reeves. The type of lifting I do is somewhat cardio taxing, but I do walk uphill 3 days a week for 45 minutes, first thing in the morn.

I have cycled off and on for years and honestly can't remember how many I've done, but I always keep it very simple. Test e or c 500wk has been a base and sometimes a bit of Winny or Dball, or EQ; but honestly, mostly just Test e or c about 500wk. I also love arimidex during.

I've never frontloaded before, but thought I'd give it a try. I am running Test e 750mg week alone with nothing else. This is the first time I've taken test over 500wk.

Week one I frontloaded with 1250mg, inj 750 day 1 and then 500 day 4. For week two just 750mg on day 8. I am on day 12 today, and YES I can definitely tell a difference with the frontloading. I've NEVER had the classic signs/symptoms that I know very well and how/when they affect me, kick in this soon.

I'm pretty amazed by it, to be honest. Same brand test (pharm grade) as past few cycles, same diet, same training, only difference is front loading the first week.

It may or may not be the same for others. But having used Dball at the beginning of a few cycles vs. just frontloading the test, hands down frontloading the test for me.

I just thought I'd post for others to read for informational purposes.

 

[vadim_b1]

front loading works its not even a question

pharmacokinetics of hormone release from long esters clearly show elevated levels even a few hours after the injection, so it makes sense that the more hormone you inject, the higher your initial levels will be.

 

[juggy38]

Ive always wanted to try frontloading. Seems benefical for things like test e, eq, all the long esters

 

[AsiaGear]

Bro, This is the second time we have ever heard of frontloading.

We had a customer complain about product claiming it had no active ingredients last fall. After 4 days and three injections he did not " feel " anything.

We were very unfamiliar with this approach and in our experience it typically takes about 8 days to " feel " anything.

Having said that, whether you feel it or not does not necessarily have anything to do with the gear.

We probably told him to get lost as we knew the problem was not the products. I can say that with great confidence today as there has never been another complaint about the effectiveness of that product.

So this frontloading may be worth looking into, but I caution anyone from having to strong an expectation.

My hope is it will give you a big, safe, bang, but I am pretty certain based on this incident that not everbody responds.

Thanks for sharing this though and also for the comments from others that sheds some light on the theoretical advantages of this technique.

Asiagear

 

[churchill]

why not mix a long ester test with a short ester like test prop or even suspension in the beginning of a cycle? its all test anyway.

 

[juggy38]

Use test prop as a kickstart and finish with long esterd test?

sounds fun

 

[witefall]

why not mix a long ester test with a short ester like test prop or even suspension in the beginning of a cycle? its all test anyway.

I have considered that also, as many friends have done it.

My main reason was I wanted to see how much sooner, if any, the signs/symptoms would start with the long ester. Cheaper and easier to just use it.

Also, I hate inj that many times, just gets old.

 

[hellraiser27]

why not mix a long ester test with a short ester like test prop or even suspension in the beginning of a cycle? its all test anyway.

Thats what I do.

 

[VictorZ06]

I start with enan and front with prop...stop enan 3-4 weeks before cycle is over and switch to only prop.

This way, (depending on what I'm taking) I can start PCT quicker if I'm ending my cycle with short esters.

 

[churchill]

I start with enan and front with prop...stop enan 3-4 weeks before cycle is over and switch to only prop.

This way, (depending on what I'm taking) I can start PCT quicker if I'm ending my cycle with short esters.

yes this is what i always do also. the quicker the PCT starts the better. and yes pinning prop ED or EOD can be a pain in the ass (get it) but its worth it in my opinion.

 

[full_belly]

We used to front load with the same test we would be using the rest of the cycle, til we realised that all we were doin was throwing test levels huge through the roof!!!! then we were settling back down to our lower weekly test levela which ended up being ineffective because of the huge catabolic hormone production caused by the huge front load of test, ie cortisol, shbg, prolactin... by week 4, nothing useful foe me personally..

NOW 30-50mg a day of and oral or prop or similar the first 5 days or so works nicely without skyrocketing plasma levels..

 

[rocco-x]

i've always frontloaded except the few times i did a cycle with dbol or anadrol.about to start cycle with test e and eq.i was thinking of frontloading with 4 amps of sust250(1x4 1st wk)then start test e/eq.i can't risk the orals anymore due to a liver prob.i consider sust b/c of the long and short esters in it.any f/b?

 

[VictorZ06]

i've always frontloaded except the few times i did a cycle with dbol or anadrol.about to start cycle with test e and eq.i was thinking of frontloading with 4 amps of sust250(1x4 1st wk)then start test e/eq.i can't risk the orals anymore due to a liver prob.i consider sust b/c of the long and short esters in it.any f/b?

You can front with sust, lots of people do...but I would much rather use pure prop if I could. You don't need the mixed added long esters that sust has since you are going to switch to test e. But if you can't get prop, use sust because it does have SOME prop in it.

 

[NPCS FINEST]

I will front load with test prop...or some kinda oral like Dbol or Drols when useing test enan,Cyp or any test with a longer ester.

 

[full_belly]

front loading with sust will serve the front load purpose, however,the left over long esters mean youre really running higher dosages in the coming weeks than you think you are...

the whole point of front loading ONLY with fast acting stuff is that the front load is gone by the time your "proper"cycle becomes effective.. front loading isnt to chuck in huge dosages, it is to kick start the cycle whilst waiting for long esters to take effect

 

[ballennonstop]

great post bro i like the concept it seems to make sense to me

 

[POWER HOUSE]

I am frontloading also. On week 2 of my 2nd cycle.

Day 1: 750mg Test E
200mg Deca

Day 4: 500mg Test E
200mg Deca

Day 8: 250mg Test E
100mg Deca

Today is day 11.

I have gained 9 pounds, and my flat bench press went up 20 pounds !!!!

Here on out, running 500mg Test E/ split on Mon/Fri
200mg Deca / split on Mon/Fri