GH and your first time...

phatkid77 · Sep 3, 2013

Curious. And sammy555 keeps saying amazing.... U read game changer ect..

Who remembers what their results were with there first run of GH... Lets say 4-5iu/day as avg dose.. for 4+ months or more (this is how I would do if.I ever dove in...minimum)
What did u gain... Did u run it off season or for.a prep... Did weak body parts explode.. ect

I think this would be interesting.. I've ran lots.of AAS. Tried slin was so so.....
But always wonder what 1500 test...GH/slin and some Tren would do to my 230# ass

So let's.hear it...
Phats

Capin · Sep 3, 2013

First time for me was about 5 years ago 6 to 8 iu per day for 7 months blue tops weighed 230 when I started 240 after and very low BF at the 6 month mark, been cycling it ever since tried em all rips which got me to 250lbs. jins, hyges been on black tops now for 4 months absolutely love them Im 52 GH is a miracle drug for me I can eat like a pig and stay lean like when I was young. One thing I have learned is to keep your IGF levels elevated this is the key to great pumps and staying lean especially as we age. You obtain a certain look from GH that you can not obtain from anabolics alone.
It is in my opinion still kinda expensive 200 bukks for 100iu so I spend about 450 per month but I remember when it was 1500 for a weeks supply I was competing in powerlifting then I wanted to try GH soo bad but just could not afford it at that price.
So to answer your question is it a game changer yes it is!

proball6 · Sep 3, 2013

Has anyone done the gh (IM)and then sub q in the afternoon?Which is the best way?

pieguy · Sep 3, 2013

If you're gonna split, it's better to do sub q morning. PWO and mid day either IM or IV (IV for PWO).

phatkid77 · Sep 3, 2013

Thnx capin..
U other two. Start own thread lol
However ill say this. I think just get it in... Time of day makes little difference...

Back to regular scheduling

cardealer · Sep 3, 2013

I'm trying that now,not long enough to give correct answer yet.

EFShadow · Sep 3, 2013

I am not (actively) trying to lean out....I eat what I want(no sweets or junk), meaning hamburger, steak, occasional beer. I am not doing any cardio at all.

When I started on May 24th - I was 193 at 11-12% BF (had dropped weight for professional reasons). I have bumped to 3iu fasted in the am and 3 iu fasted before weights.

I am running ED 45 mg prop, 35 mg Masteron, 35 mg NPP and 500 mg EQ per week. 50 mcg T3 daily.

This AM I was 215.4 and around 8.5% BF

That is over 25 pounds of LBM in 3 months.

mg1228 · Sep 3, 2013

Capin said:
First time for me was about 5 years ago 6 to 8 iu per day for 7 months blue tops weighed 230 when I started 240 after and very low BF at the 6 month mark, been cycling it ever since tried em all rips which got me to 250lbs. jins, hyges been on black tops now for 4 months absolutely love them Im 52 GH is a miracle drug for me I can eat like a pig and stay lean like when I was young. One thing I have learned is to keep your IGF levels elevated this is the key to great pumps and staying lean especially as we age. You obtain a certain look from GH that you can not obtain from anabolics alone.
It is in my opinion still kinda expensive 200 bukks for 100iu so I spend about 450 per month but I remember when it was 1500 for a weeks supply I was competing in powerlifting then I wanted to try GH soo bad but just could not afford it at that price.
So to answer your question is it a game changer yes it is!

Do you take a break to let antibodies clear?

have you done bloodwork at all to make sure igf is staying elevated?

Capin · Sep 3, 2013

Yes I take breaks but only kause I run out of money LOL but I always go on peptides in between GH runs tesamorelin works great for me, although I have tried them all.
Yes I do bloods at least twice a year sometimes more always have.
With peptides my IGF is around 300 with GH anywhere from 600 to 800 depending on the brand and how many IUs Im doin at the time of course
Been on doc prescribed TRT for 12 years now, blast and cruise.

mg1228 · Sep 3, 2013

Capin said:
Yes I take breaks but only kause I run out of money LOL but I always go on peptides in between GH runs tesamorelin works great for me, although I have tried them all.
Yes I do bloods at least twice a year sometimes more always have.
With peptides my IGF is around 300 with GH anywhere from 600 to 800 depending on the brand and how many IUs Im doin at the time of course
Been on doc prescribed TRT for 12 years now, blast and cruise.

igf stays up there 5-6 months in?

3months in on 4iu blacktops my igf was 224....never done bw at the start...just wondering if your igf dropped as u went along

peps had it to 390

EFShadow · Sep 4, 2013

mg1228 said:
igf stays up there 5-6 months in?

3months in on 4iu blacktops my igf was 224....never done bw at the start...just wondering if your igf dropped as u went along

peps had it to 390

That blacktop IGF1 seems low.....usual range is 80-100 per IU.

mg1228 · Sep 4, 2013

EFShadow said:
That blacktop IGF1 seems low.....usual range is 80-100 per IU.

yea i know....i was on adex...maybe that had something to do with it?

or antibody buildup..it was at the 3 month mark

metromuscle · Sep 4, 2013

Couldn't agree more; you gotta think long-range when doing GH, having it on hand and thinking ahead of time. Understandably $$ can always be an issue with it, but you have to be serious about it, and of course include the necessary AAS in the mix. Personally I go off the Growth for a month or so before getting back on, and do the Peptides in the interim.

Capin said:
Yes I take breaks but only kause I run out of money LOL but I always go on peptides in between GH runs tesamorelin works great for me, although I have tried them all.
Yes I do bloods at least twice a year sometimes more always have.
With peptides my IGF is around 300 with GH anywhere from 600 to 800 depending on the brand and how many IUs Im doin at the time of course
Been on doc prescribed TRT for 12 years now, blast and cruise.

Capin · Sep 4, 2013

Hey MG try taking ur blacktops in the afternoon on an empty stomach a couple hrs b4 u train assuming u lift in the evenings?

I take mine everyday at 4pm last meal was at 1:30 then about a half hour later my preworkout meal then Im in the gym when my serum GH is at its peak

I only get my IGF checked 2 or 3 times per year so I cant really be to specific
I just cant afford to monitor it as closely as I would like.

EFShadow · Sep 4, 2013

mg1228 said:
yea i know....i was on adex...maybe that had something to do with it?

or antibody buildup..it was at the 3 month mark

If one is using a true 191aa gh, then the chance of anti-body buildup at levels to knock back igf1 is pretty rare.

The old 192aa wreaked havoc.

mg1228 · Sep 4, 2013

Capin said:
Hey MG try taking ur blacktops in the afternoon on an empty stomach a couple hrs b4 u train assuming u lift in the evenings?

I take mine everyday at 4pm last meal was at 1:30 then about a half hour later my preworkout meal then Im in the gym when my serum GH is at its peak

I only get my IGF checked 2 or 3 times per year so I cant really be to specific
I just cant afford to monitor it as closely as I would like.

i just switched to peps...had been 4 months on blacks

i train fasted about 11am...take 2iu first thing when i get up...then 2iu before bed....for the last month i upped it to 3iu before bed

when i get back on ill check igf after 2 weeks...then again at the end

thinking about staying on peps for 45 days or so....that break sound long enough?

ReardenSteel · Sep 4, 2013

If you're not running FDA approved then you're wasting your time with generics. I've run every generic under the sun and none of them compare to pharm grade. Get some saizen, serostim, genotropin, norditropin, etc. Forget generic Chinese crap.