Growth Principles for Beginners ???

[Dezzy]

GEAR
"You need a testosterone base. 750mg/week is plenty.
You need an anabolic - deca or Eq at 400mg/week is
plenty. You need for optimum growth, a good oral like
d-bol at 30mg/d or A-50 50mg/d."

Can I use Trenbolone for my anabolic instead of deca or eq? It's cheaper and more readily available to me...

 

[trainhard357]

Test is an anabolic. Tren is an anabolic. I assume that he recommends Deca or EQ because it is less androgenic but highly anabolic(not as much as test though) and it does help with your joints.

 

[Johnny Smiles]

just cuz that was written does NOT mean that is a great cycle for beginners. that was written by an advanced user so view might be a bit more radical.

i have never used an oral and i no longer use anything but test unless 6 weeks out from a show, then i throw in hard stuff to get a hard look, so...

i would use only test at a moderate to high dose. it is easier on the body, wont shut you down so hard. good gains. -JS

 

[jm425]

GEAR
"You need a testosterone base. 750mg/week is plenty.
You need an anabolic - deca or Eq at 400mg/week is
plenty. You need for optimum growth, a good oral like
d-bol at 30mg/d or A-50 50mg/d."

Can I use Trenbolone for my anabolic instead of deca or eq? It's cheaper and more readily available to me...

No, you should not use tren for your anabolic because you are a beginner.

 

[duke123]

I have said this before and will say it again.Start with low doses and test only for your first cycle.750mgs is too much for your first cycle.I would say 300 is plenty to begin with.500 max.Run it for 10 to 12 weeks.Eat like a there's no tomorrow.You will grow like a weed.Second cycle run test and eq or deca.Third cycle start with your orals.Fourth cycle throw in the tren to the mix.This should take you 1 to 1.5 years to get to the fourth cycle.Don't rush it Bro.You have plenty of time to get to the monster cycles that some of us double digit cycle experienced guys now run.Good luck with your cycle my man.Whatever decision you make.

 

[Johnny Smiles]

I have said this before and will say it again.Start with low doses and test only for your first cycle.750mgs is too much for your first cycle.I would say 300 is plenty to begin with.500 max.Run it for 10 to 12 weeks.Eat like a there's no tomorrow.You will grow like a weed.Second cycle run test and eq or deca.Third cycle start with your orals.Fourth cycle throw in the tren to the mix.This should take you 1 to 1.5 years to get to the fourth cycle.Don't rush it Bro.You have plenty of time to get to the monster cycles that some of us double digit cycle experienced guys now run.Good luck with your cycle my man.Whatever decision you make.

GEEZ, might as well dangle a carrott lol
duke123 is right tho. take your time. test only for a beginner at 500mgs would make you grow like a weed IF you are eating right. next cycle bump up the test...-JS

 

[Nate.184]

I have said this before and will say it again.Start with low doses and test only for your first cycle.750mgs is too much for your first cycle.I would say 300 is plenty to begin with.500 max.Run it for 10 to 12 weeks.Eat like a there's no tomorrow.You will grow like a weed.Second cycle run test and eq or deca.Third cycle start with your orals.Fourth cycle throw in the tren to the mix.This should take you 1 to 1.5 years to get to the fourth cycle.Don't rush it Bro.You have plenty of time to get to the monster cycles that some of us double digit cycle experienced guys now run.Good luck with your cycle my man.Whatever decision you make.

x2

 

[froog]

I did 400 for 10 weeks and gained over 20lbs on my fist cycle...kept most of it as well...I wouldnt change a thing!

 

[big_guns]

250 mg

my first test cycle was 250 mg test enanthate per week and gaind 20 lbs and keept most of it

 

[Dezzy]

just cuz that was written does NOT mean that is a great cycle for beginners. that was written by an advanced user so view might be a bit more radical.

i have never used an oral and i no longer use anything but test unless 6 weeks out from a show, then i throw in hard stuff to get a hard look, so...

i would use only test at a moderate to high dose. it is easier on the body, wont shut you down so hard. good gains. -JS

More of an intermediate I do have several cycles under my belt. I'm just trying to do everything right with the lifestyle, diet, training etc... Going back to the basics or what have you. I have run tren before, loved it plus its cheaper for me. No major sides for me. I wanted to follow the advice to the tee, except that portion. Since it doesnt affect me badly, I think I will sub the eq for tren. Thanks for the advice guys, keep it coming!

 

[Dezzy]

just cuz that was written does NOT mean that is a great cycle for beginners. that was written by an advanced user so view might be a bit more radical.

i have never used an oral and i no longer use anything but test unless 6 weeks out from a show, then i throw in hard stuff to get a hard look, so...

i would use only test at a moderate to high dose. it is easier on the body, wont shut you down so hard. good gains. -JS

How come you only run test now for the most part. This is facinating to me.

 

[claymore]

Good advice

"I have said this before and will say it again.Start with low doses and test only for your first cycle.750mgs is too much for your first cycle.I would say 300 is plenty to begin with.500 max.Run it for 10 to 12 weeks.Eat like a there's no tomorrow.You will grow like a weed."

 

[Dezzy]

Ok test is best...