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GYNO QUESTION, PLEASE HELP

GYMRATN

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I've done some research but I know every case is different so I would like some imput on MY issue. So here's my story: About 4 years ago I did a cycle (my very first) of decca and test e, then post cycle I took novadex pills and had NO problems. A year later I did the same cycle and as soon as I finished I started taking 25mg of dbol a day, 50 mg of anadrol a day and the novadex. Im sure this is where I f'd myself but at the time someone I THOUGHT I could trust suggested it to me. At the end of my cycle I started to form small knots behind my nipples. A buddy of mine got me some liquid tamoxifen and after about 2 wks the knots were gone. I recently got the itch to try again so I started taking test prop twice a wk, 25mg of dbol and a 10mg tamoxifen pill every day. I thought the tamoxifen would help keep the gyno away but the knots came back. Needless to say i got the hint and got off the sh*t. The knot in my right chest is worse than last time. It feels about the size of a marble. You cant really see it but I know its there and its knda sore daily. Ive been taking 20mg of tamoxifen for the last week or so but the knot is still the same. So my questions are 1, what do you recommend I take to get rid of the existing knots? 2, what mass building cycle along with an estrogen blocker could I try that is less likely for this gyno to re occur? Please dont come out and blast me ppl, im trying to LEARN! THANKS FOR ANY AND ALL HELP!
 

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If a dose up to 40mg/day of Nolva isn't working, you might want to try a stronger compound in Letrozole. As for future cycles, its hard because I am one who believes that Test should be at the base of any cycle. But since test obviously aromatizes it seems you should avoid that. Maybe you should do a cycle with low dose test (300-400 mgs per week) as this shouldn't bother your gyno. You could even do 200, the point is just to have some test, as any other steroids will shut your natural production down and without the incorporation of some testosterone, you could have trouble recovering.

Anyways, I would go with low dose test and maybe something like Equipoise. Similar to Deca but shorter acting. You could also use a DHT compound like Winstrol or Masteron. Basically I would go with low dose of test and then use something of the DHT family for your higher dose substance. Hope this helps and good luck with your situation!
 

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Just a quick tip that ive found works well, continue to take the nolva long after you believe the lump has gone. As with all medication your trying to treat something. If you go to the doctors with an infection he doesn't put you on antibiotics until the infection appears to be going, he will put you on antibiotics until long after the infection is gone...
 

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If a dose up to 40mg/day of Nolva isn't working, you might want to try a stronger compound in Letrozole. As for future cycles, its hard because I am one who believes that Test should be at the base of any cycle. But since test obviously aromatizes it seems you should avoid that. Maybe you should do a cycle with low dose test (300-400 mgs per week) as this shouldn't bother your gyno. You could even do 200, the point is just to have some test, as any other steroids will shut your natural production down and without the incorporation of some testosterone, you could have trouble recovering.

Anyways, I would go with low dose test and maybe something like Equipoise. Similar to Deca but shorter acting. You could also use a DHT compound like Winstrol or Masteron. Basically I would go with low dose of test and then use something of the DHT family for your higher dose substance. Hope this helps and good luck with your situation!
Thanks for taking the time out to answer my ques. I might give it a shot, but I'm gonna do a lil more research. Thanks again
 

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Just a quick tip that ive found works well, continue to take the nolva long after you believe the lump has gone. As with all medication your trying to treat something. If you go to the doctors with an infection he doesn't put you on antibiotics until the infection appears to be going, he will put you on antibiotics until long after the infection is gone...
Good point, thanks!
 

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Letro should do it. The gyno will never go away but you an minimize it. You could also add some nolva at 20mg ed with the letro. Beginthe letro high then taper it. the only way to get rid of it for good is surgery. This is a good lesson on why ai use ON cycle is so important and why pct is necessary. By the way if your body fat is high you will be much more prone to gyno than a lean person. Fat allows for more aromataze to be present.
 

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Sound advice. Gyno seems to be something that someone has a genetic disposition for. Just taper off any cycles, I been off and on since 1994 and no problems.
 

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Letro should do it. The gyno will never go away but you an minimize it. You could also add some nolva at 20mg ed with the letro. Beginthe letro high then taper it. the only way to get rid of it for good is surgery. This is a good lesson on why ai use ON cycle is so important and why pct is necessary. By the way if your body fat is high you will be much more prone to gyno than a lean person. Fat allows for more aromataze to be present.
thanks for the info bro. your right, it was a HARD lesson learned. its not even that bad but damn it makes me feel self consious. how would you suggest me take the letro, and do i stay on a small dose of it while im on...or should i use somethin else like clomid? and just fyi, im lean bro. 5'10'' 170. again, thanks for the response
 

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thanks for the info bro. your right, it was a HARD lesson learned. its not even that bad but damn it makes me feel self consious. how would you suggest me take the letro, and do i stay on a small dose of it while im on...or should i use somethin else like clomid? and just fyi, im lean bro. 5'10'' 170. again, thanks for the response
I would not suggest taking letro on cycle unless you have gyno you are trying to get rid of. It shuts down way too much estrogen. It can be used as an ai at very low doses. What are the mg's of you letro?
But for the letro I would begin at 2.5mg ed. You can up it if nothing noticable happens within a week or so, but be careful using it as with any ai or serm. They are hard on the body.
 
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Go with letro. I wouldn't tell my dr's about steroid use but there are others more experienced here who can chime in on that better.

I have gyno and recently decided to try to get my ins co to pay for gyno removal. I did a little reading at gyno sites (non bb) and saw my doc and told him the areas under my nipples were very sore and uncomfortable and when I sleep and roll on my stomach it wakes me up so i can't get a good nights sleep. He sent me for a mamogram and the tech said I don't have gyno (but I do have some huge hard shit not right under the nipples but circling around under them, as well as the associated fat and protruding nipples.

Got a call today my doc wants me to have a physical exam with the specialist. He's thorough and I like that. I am going to play up the pain and the degree that this interferes with my life while also playing ignorant as to what gyno actually is. I heard sometimes ins will pay in hardship cases. I will talk about my PTSD and night mares and tossing and turning all night and will do more research about other complaints to make.

If not it's surgery in Brasil.
 

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Go with letro. I wouldn't tell my dr's about steroid use but there are others more experienced here who can chime in on that better.

I have gyno and recently decided to try to get my ins co to pay for gyno removal. I did a little reading at gyno sites (non bb) and saw my doc and told him the areas under my nipples were very sore and uncomfortable and when I sleep and roll on my stomach it wakes me up so i can't get a good nights sleep. He sent me for a mamogram and the tech said I don't have gyno (but I do have some huge hard shit not right under the nipples but circling around under them, as well as the associated fat and protruding nipples.

Got a call today my doc wants me to have a physical exam with the specialist. He's thorough and I like that. I am going to play up the pain and the degree that this interferes with my life while also playing ignorant as to what gyno actually is. I heard sometimes ins will pay in hardship cases. I will talk about my PTSD and night mares and tossing and turning all night and will do more research about other complaints to make.

If not it's surgery in Brasil.
Good luck to you bro. Hope everything goes yor way.
 

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I would not suggest taking letro on cycle unless you have gyno you are trying to get rid of. It shuts down way too much estrogen. It can be used as an ai at very low doses. What are the mg's of you letro?
But for the letro I would begin at 2.5mg ed. You can up it if nothing noticable happens within a week or so, but be careful using it as with any ai or serm. They are hard on the body.
I don't have any yet but Im about to. I'll let u know what mg it is. Thanks!
 

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