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gyno questions

stylin80

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Hi guys im on my second week of 2ml deca and 2ml sustanon perweek and ive had sore nipples for 3 days and my skin is hot to touch Ive ordered some paper arimidex but dont expect to get it for 8 days [being in Aust im limited to what I can get and RC wont help ] Is the arimidex going to help if so how much should I take ? Im 6 ft 85 kilos 27 yrs old. I have 10x 50mg clomid tabs which I was going to use pct should I use them know and stop the cycle? if so how how should I dose it ?
 
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I can't see you getting Gyno in the second week of a cycle of 500Test and 400 Deca (I am guessing since you didn't list actual mg used). If you are feeling the onset of Gyno you will need a SERM. Arimidex is an Aromatise Inhibitor that will help you on cycle but not for Gyno once it has started. I would really recommend Novladex over Clomid as I find it to be much more effective with fewer sides.

If your nips get more sensitive you will want to start taking the Clomid at 50mg/day to stop it from getting worse. Continue taking the SERM until your nips aren't sensitive and for another week after it's gone. Start taking the Arimidex after you stop the SERM and continue that for the duration of your cycle. Do not stop your cycle as it could make it worse not better. So you will need more SERM for PCT so get that coming as soon as possible.
 
the sust is 500mg per week and the deca is 200 mg per week thanks will try to source some nolva and clomid just not sure where best to look for best chance of recieving them
 
I can't see you getting Gyno in the second week of a cycle of 500Test and 400 Deca (I am guessing since you didn't list actual mg used). If you are feeling the onset of Gyno you will need a SERM. Arimidex is an Aromatise Inhibitor that will help you on cycle but not for Gyno once it has started. I would really recommend Novladex over Clomid as I find it to be much more effective with fewer sides.

If your nips get more sensitive you will want to start taking the Clomid at 50mg/day to stop it from getting worse. Continue taking the SERM until your nips aren't sensitive and for another week after it's gone. Start taking the Arimidex after you stop the SERM and continue that for the duration of your cycle. Do not stop your cycle as it could make it worse not better. So you will need more SERM for PCT so get that coming as soon as possible.

Hi stylin, your right it's arimidex you need. Nolva/clomid do not stop the formation of estrogen. if you can get your hands on proviron it's also an aromotase inhibitor. though arimidex is better.
 
re gyno.

sorry forget to mention what strength are the arimidex, it's avery powerful AI so you need very little to do the job. Also AI serve no use when using deca so you can be sure it's the sust. sorry marooned but fortunately gyno hasn't started yet, so get that AI before it does.
 
if all goes well the arimidex will be 1mg per unit but I might not get it for around eight to ten days and im due my next shot tomorrow should I miss it and wait ? Does any oine know who has the best chance of getting nolvadex clomid or provirom to Aust
 
That's very difficult to answer see how sore they tmorow if no worse you might think about 250mgs. If you feel your not happy obout it then drop the test.Take 1adex if still sore when they come, or1/2 if not. then normal pct.
 
If it comes from deca you will need cabergoline. But try the lower dose first and see how you go.
 
ok I will halve it and see what happens , the deca is only 200mg per week would that be enough cause this? Im not sure how to get cabergoline hope I dont need it..
 
sorry forget to mention what strength are the arimidex, it's avery powerful AI so you need very little to do the job. Also AI serve no use when using deca so you can be sure it's the sust. sorry marooned but fortunately gyno hasn't started yet, so get that AI before it does.

You bring up a good point Mars. I think that a build up of Estradiol has started to a certain degree, shown by the sensitive nips.

My suggestion is based on my own experience with Gyno and what worked. I see your point about starting Adex may stop the production enough that it will go away with a little time. For me, I got Gyno while taking Adex EOD and had to start Nolva to take care of the Estro that had built up in the nipple area and after a few weeks it was gone.

Of course this is all referring to Gyno that is Estro based not Gyno from the Deca which would be Prolactin based. For that, as Old Fella stated, you will need Dostinex(Caber, Bromo). An AI or SERM will do nothing for Prolactin based Gyno. I really don't think that 200mg/wk is enough Deca to cause this but it is possible.

I did a little more reading and found some iQuickie on the drugs:

arimidex, letrozole - are aromatase inhibitors. For example, Anastrozole is a potent and selective non-steroidal aromatase inhibitor. It significantly lowers serum estradiol concentrations and has no detectable effect on formation of adrenal corticosteroids or aldosterone. These drugs do not directly effect estrogen/estradiol already in circulation. They just help reduce the production of estrogen/estradiol going forward.

aromasin/exemstane - these drugs work by selectively targeting and irreversibly binding to the aromatase enzyme, which is required to produce estradiol/estrogen. Basically they are steroidal aromatase inactivators. Again, similar to the aromatase inhibitors, these drugs do not directly impact estrogen that is already in circulation.

nolvadex - is a selective estrogen receptor modulator (SERM). Basically it blocks the actions of estrogen in breast tissues and certain other tissues by "occupying" the estrogen receptors on cells. With a SERM sitting in the estrogen receptor, there is no place for the real estrogen to "sit down" - like a game of musical chairs. The SERM fits in the estrogen receptor, but it does NOT send messages to the cell nucleus to grow and divide. This is why nolvadex can help in situations where circulating estrogen levels are already elevated. For example early signs of gyno indicate high circulating estrogen levels - nolvadex is the best initial treatment to block the circulating estrogen from binding, followed-up by either an aromatase inhibitor or an inactivator to stop additional estrogen in its tracks.
info on it.

Good luck Stylin. If you have questions for the sponsors about shipping in Aus. you should email them.
 
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You bring up a good point Mars. I think that a build up of Estradiol has started to a certain degree, shown by the sensitive nips.

My suggestion is based on my own experience with Gyno and what worked. I see your point about starting Adex may stop the production enough that it will go away with a little time. For me, I got Gyno while taking Adex EOD and had to start Nolva to take care of the Estro that had built up in the nipple area and after a few weeks it was gone.

Of course this is all referring to Gyno that is Estro based not Gyno from the Deca which would be Prolactin based. For that, as Old Fella stated, you will need Dostinex(Caber, Bromo). An AI or SERM will do nothing for Prolactin based Gyno. I really don't think that 200mg/wk is enough Deca to cause this but it is possible.

I did a little more reading and found some iQuickie on the drugs:

arimidex, letrozole - are aromatase inhibitors. For example, Anastrozole is a potent and selective non-steroidal aromatase inhibitor. It significantly lowers serum estradiol concentrations and has no detectable effect on formation of adrenal corticosteroids or aldosterone. These drugs do not directly effect estrogen/estradiol already in circulation. They just help reduce the production of estrogen/estradiol going forward.

aromasin/exemstane - these drugs work by selectively targeting and irreversibly binding to the aromatase enzyme, which is required to produce estradiol/estrogen. Basically they are steroidal aromatase inactivators. Again, similar to the aromatase inhibitors, these drugs do not directly impact estrogen that is already in circulation.

nolvadex - is a selective estrogen receptor modulator (SERM). Basically it blocks the actions of estrogen in breast tissues and certain other tissues by "occupying" the estrogen receptors on cells. With a SERM sitting in the estrogen receptor, there is no place for the real estrogen to "sit down" - like a game of musical chairs. The SERM fits in the estrogen receptor, but it does NOT send messages to the cell nucleus to grow and divide. This is why nolvadex can help in situations where circulating estrogen levels are already elevated. For example early signs of gyno indicate high circulating estrogen levels - nolvadex is the best initial treatment to block the circulating estrogen from binding, followed-up by either an aromatase inhibitor or an inactivator to stop additional estrogen in its tracks.
info on it.

Good luck Stylin. If you have questions for the sponsors about shipping in Aus. you should email them.
Yea good point too. between the three of us stylin should have no probs with his man boobies.:)
 
Thanks for all of your help, I have a small lump now on the inside of my right nipple I will start taking 50 mg of clomid a day and see what happens
 
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Thanks for all of your help, I have a small lump now on the inside of my right nipple I will start taking 50 mg of clomid a day and see what happens


If you have a lump, then IMO Nolvadex is the way to go. I've used it in the past with excellent results.

Good luck!
Skarn
 
thanks Skarn im trying to track some down, fingers crossed I should get it.
 
if u have a lump u need letro @ the following doses day one .5 mg day 2 1mg day 3 1.5 mg day 4 2.0mg day 5 2.5mg stay there until lump is gone then taper down backwards and then switch 2 arimidex until pct then use nolva clomid all of the above unless it is prolactin then u will need caber or bromo
 

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