HAS ANYONE USED THIS NEW STUFF (PGCL)

[mature muscle]

I seen this on usabulk list and was wondering if it burns fat like they say it does. and how it is used

 

[dopiata]

From what Rea says ... it works ... but you have alot of sides. Like having to do 6 hots a day and be by a toilet all day. Plus it is very scarey stuff as it can constrict the smooth muscle easily, like an asthma attack. Have you tried L-Carn injection? It is safer and does help promote fatty acid breakdown and transport.

 

[dopiata]

I forgot to add this, it is used in vet medicine to induce abortions in cows as it causes the smooth muscle of the uterus to constrict. You need a script for this in the US ...

 

[mike1107]

it works well from what I read there and there only good reports

u have to inject twice daily

side are u have the shit for about 1h30 post injection and muscle constriction seems to be seldom ...

 

[bigmax]

side are u have the shit for about 1h30 post injection and muscle constriction seems to be seldom ...

...I have the same effect from creatine (I mean the shit ONLY!)

 

[Tyrone]

allbeef did a write up on it...

Here's the link:
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23871&highlight=PGCL

 

[mature muscle]

Looking for fat loss mostly. I have a couple problem areas that nothing has worked. From tren to gh to diet and training nothing has helped.
Any suggestions I'd greatly appreciate!!!

 

[muscledoc1]

Ive been using it for the last few months(on and off)-with good results!,each amp has 500mcg. of PGCL(prostagalandin-cloprostenol)-what i do is i mix 2ml. of bac-water in one amp and make 10-prefilled insulin sticks(each has 50mcg.)-offcourse you can do more sticks per amp(30mcg. to start is pretty good!)-i take it 3-times a day and its not a painfull shot at all(like a lot of people say it is..)-i go in my delts,biceps,triceps(IM ofcourse),and yes after about 25 min. you will go to the toilet(diareaha)-but the most extreme side that i noticed(for me anyway is you piss every 15-min.(like being on lasix!)-i reccomend staying on for no longer than 10-days and then take off for a week or so.as far as results,my vascularity is unreal and i did lose about 5-6 lbs. during a week of usage.(a lot is water but also fat)-anyway if you have any other question i'll be glad to help. muscledoc.

 

[Vespa103]

Total crap. Yes you lose weight but it is because your shitting everything out including water. You can expierment with dosage and find something tolerable but still I think weight loss is due more to loss of appetite and the goddam colonic it gives you. To much will give you hemroids(sp) as well. Just not worth it even a small amount leaves you feeling shitty. You warm up a little bit but its not dnp the weight loss is for all the wrong reasons. Loss of water, loss of appetite, colonic cleansing. Oh yeah don't forget nauesea.

Remember PG2A?

There are better ways to lose weight without feeling ill.

 

[muscledoc1]

i agree with you to a certain point,but vascularity and pumps are still very very good-bottom line i agree with you not worth it.

 

[mojo jojo]

You either love it or hate it. I have seen PGCL work absolute wonders on some people and not do much of anything for others. You really just need to try it for yourself to find out. I just wouldn't recommend buying too much of it at first in case you end up hating it.

 

[labboy]

You get the shits for an hour and a half ? Anything that does that to you so fast cant be wise to use.

 

[allbeef]

Read my thread above IP " PGCL"

Ireposted my experience and my speculation as to how i could lose 20 lb's in 20 days.

Yes it dumps yourr GI track and some of what is moved out in that 1hour and a half is calories that were not absorbed. It isn't just water althow it is wet shit and a lot of peeing.


But I believe it is or ca=n be muscle /size sparing if you do not restrict calories. It is okay to shift to a clean diet high in protein, but do noyt restrict your calories much if at all. Do it one time for as long as you can tolerate and then stop. I went almost a month and I have lost the abdomeenal fat for the most part. But my wife gets to baking and the next thing i know i am feeling guilty as I start ro puff uff. Well a day with 6 injections pproximately 40mcg will turn that right back.


Look mif you use it proberly and you seriously report youtrlack of progress to IP, He nay cover it. He doesn't have to as there are non responders and phuckups in any crowds. But the goal is to get peopel using it and not speculating about tit. The more people who try it and reprot their results the better it will be for us all

Don't ever forget that IP and I are friends AND THAT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE SO BE A LITTLE LEERY OF WHAT I WRITE. tHATS COMMON SENSE.




ALLbeef

 

[mature muscle]

i think i may try syntheteks products first. this stuff seems a little harsh

 

[gearheadz]

You either love it or hate it. I have seen PGCL work absolute wonders on some people and not do much of anything for others. You really just need to try it for yourself to find out. I just wouldn't recommend buying too much of it at first in case you end up hating it.

I know of someone that used. He got a few minor sides the first 2-3 days. After those days he said it worked great with no sides. He did this for 7weeks.

 

[BNG150]

This is what I been doing....
I prepare 8 insulin inj. (100 units) up to 40 by diluting one vial in 3 cc of BW.
One sub-q shot daily (work dont let me do more than that) calfs, innner hamstring, abdomen.
Sides
1. nausea.
2. xtreme abdominal contractions.
3. asthma sensation
4. toilet usage for about 1 hr or more
5. lost some weight, I think only water, for now
6. sickness sensation, debilitating
7. temp ~ dont feel changes

Next 6 days will double the dosage, 40 x twice a day

I'll post results later

 

[GOTJUICE]

its not suppose to be sub q bro... its im with 1in slin pin.
put in muscles being worked that day.
makes you vascular as hell but does keep you on toilet.
immodium helps curve the toilet issue though.
it is good stuff if you do it right.
i took in my pecs and straiations and veins were crazy.

 

[speedbacker]

Take some imodium ad before the shot, it has totally stopped the shits for a friend of mine.

 

[maxjenics]

Total crap. Yes you lose weight but it is because your shitting everything out including water. You can expierment with dosage and find something tolerable but still I think weight loss is due more to loss of appetite and the goddam colonic it gives you. To much will give you hemroids(sp) as well. Just not worth it even a small amount leaves you feeling shitty. You warm up a little bit but its not dnp the weight loss is for all the wrong reasons. Loss of water, loss of appetite, colonic cleansing. Oh yeah don't forget nauesea.

Remember PG2A?

There are better ways to lose weight without feeling ill.

I agree totally! Did 4 days at 50mcg 3-4 times daily and turned my A-Hole inside out from all the sh**tin'!

If you've had piles (haemorroids) from heavy leg training in the past DO NOT experiment with this stuff......now wheres my rubber ring???

...OUCH!

 

[allbeef]

Love it or hate it

But I don't love it, I like it. It is the offloading of the gut that I believe causes the weight loss. I believe absorbtion is prevented on much of what is in the GI track.

It's not all water loss, It may fool the body and prevent it from resetting the metabolic clock an slowing metbolism which most diets do. Becuase you can eat normally. It may be muscle sparing when used for 1-2 weeks only.

It is an adrenergic cell blocker so your ephedrin and clen will not be half as effective while it is in your ssyten for 24-36hours.

More than 2 weeks short term memory may be effected but this goes away.

You need 10 amps to play with.

Allbeef