High BP

[Ranchhand]

Ya. Thinkin about dropping to 500 from 750. But won't notice shit for weeks likely

Ya, you can try that, but my feeling is you probably won't really notice a big drop in BP till you completely cut out the EQ and any other compound that is known to raise BP.

 

[Ranchhand]

How far out are you in your prep?

Is there time to change things around? Or should you just continue with your scheduled prep and then address the BP right after your show is done?

Kind of a tough call only you can make for your personal health. You can continue with your protocol for show and get on BP meds asap and hopefully the BP meds won't screw with your prep or do you change things around in hopes of controlling elevated BP in regards to taking care of your health asap? How important is show to you?

 

[phatkid77]

Be 10 wks out Friday


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[Stewie]

I only have few minutes, I'm in between classes. You have a very high pulse pressure, on top of hypertension. Bad combination.

I believe an ACE inhibitor over a Beta blocker is a better option for both conditions ie; high BP→PP.

In short. Beta-blockers lower heart rate and reduce nerve impulses to the heart and blood vessels. To where a ACE inhibitor cause the vessels to relax and blood pressure to go down. There's more to each, limited on time.

You really need to reconsider what you're taking.

 

[TT]

Anyone dummy down the difference between. ACE inhibitor VS beta blocker


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ACE inhibitor inhibits production of an enzyme that stiffens your veins, thus allowing for vein relaxation and expansion. Be care full mixing that with Cialis. Above mentioned lisinopril is an ACE inhibitor. It does it's effect mostly in kidneys. It also reduces the blood volume.

Beta blockers work the opposite of clen. While clen is a beta agonist it increases the strength of a heart pumping. Blocking Beta receptors slows down the heart's rate and pump strength thus reducing the blood pressure.

If I were you I would drop clen immediately and reduce your doses. If that doesn't help I would start with lisiopril first. Beta blockers make people really tired and sleepy and diminish strength big time.

I had a similar situation like yours except my BP wasn't that sky high. Only thing that really helped to bring down to normal was getting off completely and loose a few pounds. Other than that nothing really worked. For 2 years I was taking any available supplement on the planet but it didn't really do any difference. Just like you said, years ago it really didn't bother me but now I have to do my best to control my BP.

Wish you quick improvements brother.

God Bless,

TT

 

[phatkid77]

Thanks guys!
See how it is tomorrow. The clen. Even the low dose I took. Should be completely out of system
I'll lowere abombs. But I do t retain water so not sure if it would be associated with the raise or not..

Gunna donate blood too soon


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[TT]

I only have few minutes, I'm in between classes. You have a very high pulse pressure, on top of hypertension. Bad combination.

I believe an ACE inhibitor over a Beta blocker is a better option for both conditions ie; high BP→PP.

In short. Beta-blockers lower heart rate and reduce nerve impulses to the heart and blood vessels. To where a ACE inhibitor cause the vessels to relax and blood pressure to go down. There's more to each, limited on time.

You really need to reconsider what you're taking.

Stewie put it really good and undestandable just as I was typing. I am pretty sure he will expand on it even better when he has time.

Good luck

TT

 

[Ranchhand]

OK,10 weeks you've got a little time. In reference to Stewie's post, an ace inhibitor like Lisinopril sounds like it will be a good starting point. I would read up on it and see what the side will be, ie: make you retain water, etc. Do you have anything else on hand you can use to replace the EQ for your contest prep? If not how soon can you get something and is it worth doing with the time factor available? Unfortunately the time factor sucks but you could hopefully make it work and balance things out to get your BP under control and still come into the show full, grainy and ripped.

 

[phatkid77]

Also. This is week two of cardio. So that's not going to hurt either lol


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[Dado5]

My BP was 160/110 for a while. Dr put me on 50mg Losartan and that dropped it down. After a year BP went up again , so i got HCTZ in addition to Losartan.
HCTZ made me feel like crap and it depleated my electrolites to the point i was paralized and couldnt move.
Dr took me of HCTZ and put me on Almodipine.
So Losartan and Almodipine seems to work together and keep my BP in 130/75 range..

 

[phatkid77]

Yeah. I can get what ever. Whenever. All eq really does is increase vascularity. I ran 500 last time (unsure if I had bp issue then) and I looked ok then. Lol **broken link removed**


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[Ranchhand]

Yeah. I can get what ever. Whenever. All eq really does is increase vascularity. I ran 500 last time (unsure if I had bp issue then) and I looked ok then. Lol

What about Mast or Winny or even Drol, they all help with vascularity. I personally would choose Mast, I hate Winny.

 

[phatkid77]

Buddy has amplodine getting that and will try 2-5mg if it doesn't drop under 140.


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[phatkid77]

I love mast. On drol. Have winny. Perhaps I'll drop eq to be safe


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[Ranchhand]

Buddy has amplodine getting that and will try 2-5mg if it doesn't drop under 140.

So I went and checkout amplodine real quick, sounds like a potential side is edema, not so good for your show unless you can control the potential edema. The other is it's hard on the liver and you're already taking Drol. Somethings to consider.

 

[phatkid77]

Always conflict somewhere lol. Jesus. Not worried about edema. And liver is a tough organ . But scaring kidneys is non reversible. Thus wanting to rectify


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[Ranchhand]

I love mast. On drol. Have winny. Perhaps I'll drop eq to be safe

You know how your body reacts to the compounds more than anyone else with experience using them. I like your idea of dropping the EQ, maybe as the EQ is working it's way out of your system in the next 2-3weeks you could replace it with the Mast. That would put you on the Mast 4-6 weeks out, plenty of time for the Mast to do it's job. Alternate would be replace the EQ with Winny you have on hand. Some may disagree but I feel the Mast can bring out more vascularity than the Winny, but that's my personal experience.

 

[phatkid77]

Well. Both will be ran at same time at some point. 6-8 I'd add mast


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[Ranchhand]

Last summer I did a run with Test, Tren, Mast and Drol. Wow was I vascular and boy did I get the comments about it. Can't wait to do the same exact run this summer.

 

[phatkid77]

How was BP? Lol


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