High RBC: Testosterone and Erythropoiesis

[ThinkTank]

All forms of caffeine, cacao (dark chocolate), garlic and Curcumin inhibit thromboxane A2 and B2 formation. As well reduces platelet aggregation. By inhibiting thromboxane formation, in which is prothrombotic, reduces viscosity.

Yeah...What he said

 

[ThinkTank]

For me personally Im just not going to take a chance with it.... My father died of cancer.... im not going to do something that might be conducive to that risk to benefit wise

Maté consumption and the risk of squamous cell esophageal cancer in... - PubMed - NCBI

Maté drinking and oral and oro-pharyngeal cancer: a systematic revi... - PubMed - NCBI

The beverage maté: a risk factor for cancer of the head and neck. - PubMed - NCBI

Maté: a risk factor for oral and oropharyngeal cancer. - PubMed - NCBI

How do you rationalize that statement, and then pump yourself full of PEDS?

 

[Cerberus777]

How do you rationalize that statement, and then pump yourself full of PEDS?

One should think before they speak.

 

[DOGGCRAPP]

How do you rationalize that statement, and then pump yourself full of PEDS?

Pump myself full of PEDS?

I dont.

TRT since late 2008

 

[ThinkTank]

Pump myself full of PEDS?

I dont.

TRT since late 2008

My bad...I did not know this.

 

[Love_to_Bodybuild]

Pump myself full of PEDS?

I dont.

TRT since late 2008

never got into the idea of donating blood?

 

[DOGGCRAPP]

never got into the idea of donating blood?

3 times a year

 

[Love_to_Bodybuild]

3 times a year

guess I need to man up, if nothing else works. started TRt/ injectables this year at 33.

Before this done about one otc cycle 6-8 weeks, once a year, for ten years

Thanks for sharing, your knowledge over the years has helped me a lot

 

[DOGGCRAPP]

Im sticking with my black tea and green tea intake to keep hematocrit down....Im seeing if that pans out with some of my next bloodwork.

I cannot try the yerba mate route because of so many links to mouth, throat, esophagus and lung cancer with prolonged chronic use.....not worth the risk in my opinion.

Well 2 months of green tea intake at a minimum of 4 cups a day of it....did absolutley jack crap with my hemoglobin and hematocrit.....it always runs 49-52 and 16.5-18 and it was still right there.....so that answers it for myself at least that green tea is out of the equation for H+H control

 

[LK3]

For me personally Im just not going to take a chance with it.... My father died of cancer.... im not going to do something that might be conducive to that risk to benefit wise

Maté consumption and the risk of squamous cell esophageal cancer in... - PubMed - NCBI

Maté drinking and oral and oro-pharyngeal cancer: a systematic revi... - PubMed - NCBI

The beverage maté: a risk factor for cancer of the head and neck. - PubMed - NCBI

Maté: a risk factor for oral and oropharyngeal cancer. - PubMed - NCBI

well to me that looks like evidence to support what im saying, there would be population stats to show, and there are! lol!

here they are!

looks like proof possative that mate could increase risk of the cancers mentioned.

 

[20sam91]

Anyone tried this for any period of time (mate and citrulline?)

I've come to the conclusion that whilst grapefruit might regulate it to some extent, it certainly won't keep it at 48-50 whilst on cycle so I'm ruling that out.

 

[LK3]

Anyone tried this for any period of time (mate and citrulline?)

I've come to the conclusion that whilst grapefruit might regulate it to some extent, it certainly won't keep it at 48-50 whilst on cycle so I'm ruling that out.

did you miss what I said???

there is a giant group of ppl who drink mate all day everyday 100g easy im talking...

the probability of it being much use is very slim...
along the lines of coffee or red wine.
do you really SEE/FEEL anything by implementing those?

hogwash propaganda even the cancer parts in real life there is like no difference...

im not saying that things do not help bring out your inborn potential for cancer, there are plenty of things to help this along, sure mate COULD be one to some extent in some ppl. there are many though, plastics, cigs, etc.

since im prob the only one with real life experience here... ill tell you in real life no real difference. lol ( on mate ) save your money n donate blood. you will help yourself AND someone else.

:welcome:

 

[Stewie]

I don't see any significance effects on erythrocytes from mate or citrulline.

Citrulline can be beneficial for endothelial function and urea cycle.

An ACEi or an ARB can potentially be helpful on erythropoiesis.

 

[Stewie]

I don't see any significant effects on erythrocytes from mate or citrulline.

Citrulline can be beneficial for endothelial function and urea cycle.

An ACEi or an ARB can potentially be helpful on erythropoiesis.

Corrected. :banghead: