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How much potassium do you take

Bro, you guys are all I got. Doctors are fucking stupid and they prove it time and time again. My mom, my stepdad, my bothers, we all fucked with stupid as doctors. Health isn't the same for everyone. How do I take 6000mg of potassium chloride in a one hour span and only feel better, not worse. Apparently I should die on that dose but I don't. Excess supplementation improved my egrf...?

My life, my job, my marriage, can't this shit just kill me. I'm losing it all anyways.
What thyroid meds are you in rn.

Also, do not continue to take that much potassium. What you did was incredibly dangerous.
 
Ok, yes, now we are getting somewhere. You've already spoke more on my condition with what little info I've given than I've managed to get out of all the Dr's I've seen. Its always deer in the headlights look.

I get hypoglycemia, insulin spikes, huges shifts of potassium. Androgens make it 100 times worse. Any time I pin test and my test levels go above normal, i hemorrhage potassium. It all shifts out of my blood and into my cells every morning. I need pretty much a days worth of potassium first thing in the morning to function. I took 8000mg potassium chloride this morning before noon. Shit "mineral water" all morning. My bowels will have mineral/oil floating in it. Reminds me of apple juice, it has that mineral look on the top surface.

Both my brothers have graves disease. I do not have graves antibodies but my right thyroid lobe is enlarged to 6cm and according to Google, that is in fact a goiter despite the endo saying I'm fine. I have all symptoms of hyperthyroidism. Only my ft3 goes high. Since my tsh and t4 are always "good", they won't do anything. But they aren't good because while tsh and t4 are in range, their numbers don't work together.

My dheas is high but I don't supplement it. Calcium stays borderline high but parathyroid fine. I've had so much bloodwork done.

I chase magnesium for one reason, your thyroid can produce extra ft3 if your body fails the atp process to rebuild muscle if magnesium is low. Then the thyroid takes over. Also, chronic low magnesium can cause hashimotos disease.cmy middle brother has both hashimotos and graves according to his dr.

Unfortunately, i think my days of using steroids is over.

Also, according to medscape, I am alotted 8-9000mg of potassium chloride per day without doing bloodwork.

I had a referral to ku med to see an endo but I guess based on my bloodwork, they never called. First endo i saw said I was fine and said I had no family history of thyroid disorder despite the fact he sees my brother for hyperthyroidism. He knew I was using testosterone and wrote me off instantly.

Brother you may have conn syndrome or something goin on with your adrenals. If your dhea is high without supplementing. I suspect your adrenals are releasing aldosterone more than they need to which is causing your kidneys to dump potassium.

Like I said this is a complex pathways which you can’t figure out on your own. Take my advice and see a nephrologist and they will have it figured out within a few visits. A general practitioner won’t have the time or expertise to devote to it.
 
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Conn syndrome aka primary aldosteronism.
 
Bro, you guys are all I got. Doctors are fucking stupid and they prove it time and time again. My mom, my stepdad, my bothers, we all fucked with stupid as doctors. Health isn't the same for everyone. How do I take 6000mg of potassium chloride in a one hour span and only feel better, not worse. Apparently I should die on that dose but I don't. Excess supplementation improved my egrf...?

My life, my job, my marriage, can't this shit just kill me. I'm losing it all anyways.

Don't make a blanket statement that "doctors are fucking stupid..." In your first post, what doctor are you referring to, a Primary? You need to see a specialist. Hypo or hyperkalemia is not something you want to mess around with on your own.
 
Brother you may have conn syndrome or something goin on with your adrenals. If your dhea is high without supplementing. I suspect your adrenals are releasing aldosterone more than they need to which is causing your kidneys to dump potassium.

Like I said this is a complex pathways which you can’t figure out on your own. Take my advice and see a nephrologist and they will have it figured out within a few visits. A general practitioner won’t have the time or expertise to devote to it.

My oldest brother has Addison disease. It is an autoimmune disorder that attacks his adrenal glands, he also has graves disease. My middle brother has graves disease and hashimotos disease. I have two brothers, both autoimmune. My mom has fibromyalgia, ibs, Gerd, you name it, she's got it. She's on disability. Pretty sure it's undiagnosed thyroid disorder but her tsh and t4 always good too. My middle brother just had to discontinue methimizole because at only 5mg 5 days a week, it was still making him hypo. Last time I talked to him, he seemed a little hyperactive.

I scaled it back yesterday, only supplemented 6000mg potassium chloride. Dragged all day, didn't have an appetite until dinner. Been dragging this morning. Now remember when I first wake up, I typically feel fine. It take 15-30 minutes, I'll lose all blood flow, start getting anxiety, stomach will get all messed up and until it's hit the potassium, I'm fucked.

I'm easing into it today but I just hit 8000mg potassium chloride, now I'm feeling better, except hyperthyroid with discomfort in all my thyroid tissue. Chanced are, I won't crash until this evening now. I'm having potassium shifts and with certain genetic conditions, the potassium doesn't shift back, it just gets wasted. Every morning, it's like a need an entire day worth of potassium first thing?

I've seen my gp, endo, gi, urologists. Healthy as whistle :( i feel like shit most the time. Im hyper active and irritable or im just tired as all hell. Its up or it's down.

The answer is pretty simple and unfortunate. I'm hyperthyroid and I can not have high testosterone levels. Androgens make the k+ shifts worse, leaving me taking i guess dangerous levels of potassium to conteract it. Sucks, it's been a long 10 years, I put so much into my body and the gym. I never really gained muscle without gear, never gained like i shouldve on gear either but it worked for a little while...suppose the hyperthyroidism might make it a little more difficult.

I appreciate everybody's help. Sorry for any offensive comments. Its been a long road, the Dr's look at me like I'm crazy and that it's all in my head. Same way my mom gets treated. Its depressing, it's frustrating, and I spend i lot of time really just irritable anymore. I also spent several days shoveling snow, blah, and intense physical activity sets my thyroid off. Pretty sure i end up in several day long potassium shifts sometimes.
 

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My oldest brother has Addison disease. It is an autoimmune disorder that attacks his adrenal glands, he also has graves disease. My middle brother has graves disease and hashimotos disease. I have two brothers, both autoimmune. My mom has fibromyalgia, ibs, Gerd, you name it, she's got it. She's on disability. Pretty sure it's undiagnosed thyroid disorder but her tsh and t4 always good too. My middle brother just had to discontinue methimizole because at only 5mg 5 days a week, it was still making him hypo. Last time I talked to him, he seemed a little hyperactive.

I scaled it back yesterday, only supplemented 6000mg potassium chloride. Dragged all day, didn't have an appetite until dinner. Been dragging this morning. Now remember when I first wake up, I typically feel fine. It take 15-30 minutes, I'll lose all blood flow, start getting anxiety, stomach will get all messed up and until it's hit the potassium, I'm fucked.

I'm easing into it today but I just hit 8000mg potassium chloride, now I'm feeling better, except hyperthyroid with discomfort in all my thyroid tissue. Chanced are, I won't crash until this evening now. I'm having potassium shifts and with certain genetic conditions, the potassium doesn't shift back, it just gets wasted. Every morning, it's like a need an entire day worth of potassium first thing?

I've seen my gp, endo, gi, urologists. Healthy as whistle :( i feel like shit most the time. Im hyper active and irritable or im just tired as all hell. Its up or it's down.

The answer is pretty simple and unfortunate. I'm hyperthyroid and I can not have high testosterone levels. Androgens make the k+ shifts worse, leaving me taking i guess dangerous levels of potassium to conteract it. Sucks, it's been a long 10 years, I put so much into my body and the gym. I never really gained muscle without gear, never gained like i shouldve on gear either but it worked for a little while...suppose the hyperthyroidism might make it a little more difficult.

I appreciate everybody's help. Sorry for any offensive comments. Its been a long road, the Dr's look at me like I'm crazy and that it's all in my head. Same way my mom gets treated. Its depressing, it's frustrating, and I spend i lot of time really just irritable anymore. I also spent several days shoveling snow, blah, and intense physical activity sets my thyroid off. Pretty sure i end up in several day long potassium shifts sometimes.

Sorry you're going through this. I do agree with @bananas007 I would asked to be seen by a nepherologist. I wouldn't hesitate to toss out to see if s/he could tease out conn, pseudohyperaldosteronism or Liddle syndrome. Hopefully someone will eventually determine what's causing you to dump K+.
 
This may seem like an odd question. In context, could be relevant. Any chance you consume larger amounts of real licorice? Not the sugar loaded fake licorice.
 
You can lead the horse to the water but you can’t force the horse to drink it.

Just curious, can you post a few of your CMP or BMP. I want to see your CO2 and anion gap.
 
This may seem like an odd question. In context, could be relevant. Any chance you consume larger amounts of real licorice? Not the sugar loaded fake licorice.
Haha, no, licorice is disgusting. I know it can cause issues. Don't remember how or why but I've read about it.

You can lead the horse to the water but you can’t force the horse to drink it.

Just curious, can you post a few of your CMP or BMP. I want to see your CO2 and anion gap.
Comp test from February. It was a fasted test done in the morning.

Basic from October. That test was done in the afternoon after work, not fasted. Was supplementing some potassium bicarbonate. Was the only decent dosed potassium i could find at the time that was in capsules. Now I just use potassium chloride powder. Not sure how much the bicarbonate would raise my co2.

October was the first time in 10 years that my egfr was above 70.
 

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I AM stumped but out of that panel you posted, potassium is the last thing to jump out to me. The things that jump out to me are
a) glucose (hyperglycemia)
b) calcium (hypercalcemia)
c) CO2 (alkalosis)

No idea what else is going on with you, or what other meds you are on so no way for me to guide you. Wish you best.
The test ordering provide is a physician assistant. A complex case of hypokalemia is challenging even for the savvy MD and almost impossible for 99% of PA-C.
 
There used to be this Russian natural anabolic, "kalii orotas." Was just potassium orotate but was said to be a "metabolic stimulator" beneficial for bodybuilders. Lol.
 
I AM stumped but out of that panel you posted, potassium is the last thing to jump out to me. The things that jump out to me are
a) glucose (hyperglycemia)
b) calcium (hypercalcemia)
c) CO2 (alkalosis)

No idea what else is going on with you, or what other meds you are on so no way for me to guide you. Wish you best.
The test ordering provide is a physician assistant. A complex case of hypokalemia is challenging even for the savvy MD and almost impossible for 99% of PA-C.
Hey man, missed the updates in this thread. Okay, so those labs are weird and probably needed more explanation. I get such ups and downs, sometimes I'm too exhausted to put in the energy.

Those labs, the one in February, I was one week removed froma two week course of nexium and had stopped telmisartan for about week prior. I had a dizzy spell that lasted for days prior to that test and didn't really eat much for 3 days and pretty much slept the whole time. I had been drinking liquid ivs hydration drink at the time. They seemed to be helping.

Second test. I was 5 days back on telmisartan, I had started supplementing potassium chloride and potassium bicarbonate months prior(big mistake i think, the bicarbonate). Was only dosing maybe 2000mg or so then.

So, outside of those labs, the past 10 years, it's always top end c02, top end calcium, top end sodium, low end potassium low end chloride. Here, I'll include an older one.

I cant tell if I'm actually hyperthyroidism or not or of my ft3 could be falsely elevated from low tbg from testosterone use. Seems there's all kinds of variables, I just have to brothers with autoimmune disorders.

I think I have hyperthyroidism, I use need more potassium than the normal person. I do not consume enough potassium. I work in the heat and sweat a lot. Low potassium gives me indigestion and I take antacids. Generally pepcid complete, sometimes nexium. Looking back, nexium fucks me up. Anyways, then I started taking magnesium, seemed to help...but then didn't, so I pushed magnesium harder...what can all these things do but also make worse at the same time...metabolic alkalosis.

I dont think I get indigestion from high stomach acid, i get it from low potassium or something else. My understanding is that if metabolic alkalosis is coming from the variables I listed, that it becomes very hard for a dr to figure out. I had things going the right direction back in spring and then lost it. I think it's because of magnesium ability to cause a low acid base. I still think I need the magnesium just not at those doses and not for a few more days.

My indigestion also always exists in my neck about where my thyroid is and after bouts of "indigestion" I usually end up with good amounts of energy. I dunno.

Ku med called me the other about my referral from October! Gonna see a different endocrinologist in June! What a long process.
 

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i dont take it every day but when i did use it i used potassium citrate. i have seen pc used to lower bp too.
taking it pre event can help with lactic acid burn in endurance events. always used at least 5g at a time.
I seem to remember the number 10 grams wrt pre-workout potassium citrate on A's forum. I don't know how much of that is actual potassium without googling.

I think tomato juice is probably the highest potassium containing foodstuff. The doctor who examined Momo Benaziza hours before he died just recommended him to drink tomato juice. Milos thinks he died from too high levels of potassium because docs or paramedics don't consider the types of diuretics taken and don't test electrolytes before giving potassium. People are different though, my mom takes a potassium sparing diuretic but needs to take four 750mg potassium tabs a day.
 
Potassium and phosphorous are no good for kidney impaired folks. I had alkalosis + hypercalcemia and more when my kidneys failed. check out my Old thread
 
bruh i did take 5000mg potassium once by accident thought i was getting 500mg and jesus my heart went balistic.. i cant imagine takin all that potassium.
 
I seem to remember the number 10 grams wrt pre-workout potassium citrate on A's forum. I don't know how much of that is actual potassium without googling.
This seems very dangerous
 
Potassium used to be used for lethal injections. Fun fact

If you’ve ever had it in an IV they have to dilute it very heavily with saline solution otherwise it’ll give a very painful burning sensation in your veins.

Too much is obviously very bad, even lethal
 

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