HPTA suppression (preventable?)

[Conan21]

Im wondering if HCG and clomid etc really make a difference. I am not arguing that using these correctly will not help you bounce back much faster if your body is capable of doing so. I'm referring to more of a permanent suppression (bigger picture).

It seems to me, that most guys who end up with low testosterone (from gear use) do so because they are LH deficient and not because their Testes are malfunctioning. Taking HCG might help keep the testes working on cycle but wouldn't this shut down LH even more so while on (if that is even possible). I don't know of any preventative measures to keep LH functioning.

I know a few guys who have juiced for many years. Most have never used HCG and only clomid on occasion and they seem to come back to base line. My one friend was just on for a full year. He took no HCG throughout that time but clomid afterwards and was back to normal after 8 weeks according to his blood tests.

So is it just luck of the draw as to whether your body will bounce back?

I'd like to hear some thoughts on this......

 

[BALDNAZI]

Great thread

This is coming up alot lately...HPTA recovery,sperm counts,etc. I have posted questions on this many times because Im still suffering from a shut down over a year now since I got sick and Im still not recovered "down there"

There are so many opinions and everyone knows the basics...clomid,HCG,HMG but in my case Im not ready to have kids yet,I just want to have them in a couple years.So for guys like me HMG is useless right now.

This a very important topic to alot of guys,sorry for kinda hijacking it Conan,but I need answers just as much as you do.Great post brother.....

 

[Kaiser]

This is coming up alot lately...HPTA recovery,sperm counts,etc. I have posted questions on this many times because Im still suffering from a shut down over a year now since I got sick and Im still not recovered "down there"

There are so many opinions and everyone knows the basics...clomid,HCG,HMG but in my case Im not ready to have kids yet,I just want to have them in a couple years.So for guys like me HMG is useless right now.

This a very important topic to alot of guys,sorry for kinda hijacking it Conan,but I need answers just as much as you do.Great post brother.....

Stupid question probably BN, but have you tried Proviron while using clomid yet?

 

[BALDNAZI]

Kaiser

Whatsup brother? I know Proviron very well,and although it would impact me with some benefit I believe the androgenic nature of it will in the end put me right back where I started.

 

[Kaiser]

Whatsup brother? I know Proviron very well,and although it would impact me with some benefit I believe the androgenic nature of it will in the end put me right back where I started.

The combination of Clomid and Proviron together bring allot of people out of the dumps when it comes to the little soldier. Proviron does restore HPTA pretty well on it's own, but compounded with Clomid it works wonders. The gear affect of Proviron is fairly low. Do you mean put you back wanting to do gear again?

BTW, I have used your story over and over at Alinboard to keep some of the younger lads safe that were over dosing. I think it has done some good, I hope you don't mind.

 

[BALDNAZI]

Agreed

Its something to look into further,but yes Im thinking it will get me into "juice mode" .Im going to take the growth and I will take 1 shot of test a week 250mg if my doctor still wants to give it to me.But other then that anything juice related scares me dude.I never want to go through that again.

And yea its ok that you tell my story,I want everyone to know.BUT we need to figure out how I can make some money off my story.Im getting married next May and I need to make alot of cash within the next 12 months!!

 

[Tom]

Your Story.....

BN,
I still think your story is worthy of being published. Maybe you could find and work with somebody in the broadcast sporting industry( ESPN, HBO REAL SPORTS etc) who would listen to you and get you the publicity it would take to get started. You will never know if you don't try....a few emails or phone calls could get you rolling.

Tom
Didn't mean to sidetrack this thread, please keep the hpta info coming

 

[mixxin]

You cannot prevent suppression but you can take measures for faster recovery. i.e. shorter cycles, use weaker steroids, HCG, use of AI, proper PCT. It's all about hormone balancing.