Iain Valliere Flexing At 17-Years-Old

[danieltx]

He posted this on Instagram during Q&A yesterday - he was voted 'buffest' in high school. A great example of why genetics rule all in bodybuilding.

 

[SherlockFoam]

he is considered to not even have great genetics amongst the pro ranks. Very hard worker.

There’s level to this shit lol

 

[PRorER]

he is considered to not even have great genetics amongst the pro ranks. Very hard worker.

There’s level to this shit lol

I mean for a guy who’s placed as high as 7th at the Olympia and won multiple pro shows, IMO he’s got some of the best genetics in the world

 

[SherlockFoam]

I mean for a guy who’s placed as high as 7th at the Olympia and won multiple pro shows, IMO he’s got some of the best genetics in the world

Not at all lol. He placed 7th at a very watered down O. His genetics in comparison to other pros are subpar.

 

[livinlean]

Not at all lol. He placed 7th at a very watered down O. His genetics in comparison to other pros are subpar.

Dude, what? I agree with you saying there's levels to this shit but he's definitely got some of the best genetics in the world for building muscle. I believe he also benched 3 plates in highschool natty.

 

[FK86]

I find myself using the term "genetics" when referring to an individual’s ability to accrue lean tissue at a faster rate and higher ceiling than most people. Also when referring to how some people can get super lean and dry in certain spots while others can’t, and how strong someone is naturally before they even start lifting.

I use the terms "structure" and "aesthetics" for describing the flow of the physique, joint and insertion points etc.

So when a pro bodybuilder says they don’t have good genetics, I laugh at them because anyone who stands on a pro stage has awesome genetics. Most of those guys all have the ability to walk around at 250 + and lean. Their structure determines the final results from the judges usually.

Anyway, here’s Iain benching 500 at 19.

 

[aHarness]

Not at all lol. He placed 7th at a very watered down O. His genetics in comparison to other pros are subpar.

Dude. Look at the picture just posted. His genetics are not subpar for a pro bodybuilder. Most pros would kill just to BE at the O.

 

[marssel]

Dude. Look at the picture just posted. His genetics are not subpar for a pro bodybuilder. Most pros would kill just to BE at the O.

Yea I think that’s a “my genetics aren’t great but look at IV his aren’t either so maybe I can get there somehow” magic thinking going on. Also and I don’t know if he has but most of us are the biggest dude in any gym we walk into and compared to IFBB placing pros a lot of us look small. When I was winning shows I could stand behind Branch and you wouldn’t know I was there literally.

 

[Shelby]

His genetics for adding muscle are very elite.
His genetics in terms of shape / structure, are very good, but not elite amongst the upper echelon of the IFBB.

 

[intensevolume1]

Not at all lol. He placed 7th at a very watered down O. His genetics in comparison to other pros are subpar.

Wow. Dude there's not a single person who competes on the Olympia or Arnold stage who have subpar genetics.
He has better genetics than 99% of pros. The guys on that stage are literally the genetic elite.
This is like when people watch the ufc and talk shit about one of the guys competing for the belt.

 

[Nyoco]

I find myself using the term "genetics" when referring to an individual’s ability to accrue lean tissue at a faster rate and higher ceiling than most people. Also when referring to how some people can get super lean and dry in certain spots while others can’t, and how strong someone is naturally before they even start lifting.

I use the terms "structure" and "aesthetics" for describing the flow of the physique, joint and insertion points etc.

So when a pro bodybuilder says they don’t have good genetics, I laugh at them because anyone who stands on a pro stage has awesome genetics. Most of those guys all have the ability to walk around at 250 + and lean. Their structure determines the final results from the judges usually.

Anyway, here’s Iain benching 500 at 19.

I think you know the flow of the physique, joint and insertion points are determined by genetics, as for the statement that anyone who stands on a pro stage has awesome genetics...this chap begs to differ.

 

[Siggy]

I think you know the flow of the physique, joint and insertion points are determined by genetics, as for the statement that anyone who stands on a pro stage has awesome genetics...this chap begs to differ.

Looks like Big Lenny in his prime.

 

[buck]

His genetics for building muscle can't be argued. And maybe even more important are his genetics for getting lean.

 

[TheOtherOne55]

This thread is a giant face palm. Genetics is more than just shape. People need to stop sayin shit like, “well he has shitty genetics” if someone doesn’t have 30 inch waist yet is a fuckin pro.

Genetics have to do with shape and insertions yes. But it also has to do with the ability to EAT, handle drugs, train balls to the wall, suffer, put on a great deal of muscle, and have clean bloodwork. Like sorry to burst your bubble, Dave Polumbo had great fuckin genetics.

 

[d4ve]

This thread is a giant face palm. Genetics is more than just shape. People need to stop sayin shit like, “well he has shitty genetics” if someone doesn’t have 30 inch waist yet is a fuckin pro.

Genetics have to do with shape and insertions yes. But it also has to do with the ability to EAT, handle drugs, train balls to the wall, suffer, put on a great deal of muscle, and have clean bloodwork. Like sorry to burst your bubble, Dave Polumbo had great fuckin genetics.

Amen.

Due to my genetics - for shape and structure - I will likely never be a top pro, if ever a pro at all.

But also due to my genetics, I have barely been injured even after 20 years of training - 10 of them training somewhat recklessly as a powerlifter. I have clean blood work at high doses, barring prolonged use of tren & orals. I have a massive appetite and still look forward to every meal even deep in the offseason. And I have incredible recovery from hard training, to the point I have to remind the occasional training partner they can’t just copy my every move without consequence.

Probably at least partially generic - I’m obsessive when it comes to goals, and it doesn’t feel like it takes discipline to adhere to a plan.

Don’t get me wrong, I take better care of myself than 99% of people I know, but only so many people can sustain the relentless pursuit of muscle and condition for 10+ years. In this regard, I feel like I was dealt a pretty damn good hand and am fortunate to have found a pursuit that matches that hand.

 

[Fleezy]

I wish my genetics were as bad as Iain’s

 

[d4ve]

I wish my genetics were as bad as Iain’s

Right? LOL

You know that adage, “You can train hard or you can train long, but you can’t do both?”

It doesn’t really seem to apply to most bbers with elite genetics. Look at Iain train in his prime. He didn’t consider himself a high volume trainer, but his sessions were like…6, 8, maybe 10 movements in some cases with multiple failure sets and often intensifiers for each. That’s similar to a lot of pros’ training….Wilkin and Fitzwater also come to mind.

 

[luki7788]

NO ONE who doesn't have the genetics will become an IFBB bro in open bodybuilding. As the guys wrote above, genetics is not only about beautiful muscle shapes and the ease of gaining mass - if someone is unhealthy cannot tolerate huge amounts of food or has a ton of side effects using 50mg tren e2d od 5iu gh they will certainly not achieve anything in the PRO ranking even if it has the best physics in the world in terms of shapes and proportions

 

[Biggerp73]

He posted this on Instagram during Q&A yesterday - he was voted 'buffest' in high school. A great example of why genetics rule all in bodybuilding.

He is a naturally very lean/skinny guy... Every little bitt of muscle shows up big time..


Here's me at 17 years old.. probably 15-17% body fat..

 

[Nyoco]

This thread is a giant face palm. Genetics is more than just shape. People need to stop sayin shit like, “well he has shitty genetics” if someone doesn’t have 30 inch waist yet is a fuckin pro.

Genetics have to do with shape and insertions yes. But it also has to do with the ability to EAT, handle drugs, train balls to the wall, suffer, put on a great deal of muscle, and have clean bloodwork. Like sorry to burst your bubble, Dave Polumbo had great fuckin genetics.

Agreed on all counts except on the training and suffering, we all can do that, but to say anyone stepping on a pro stage has great genetics is a fallacy. Palumbo had good genetics, unfortunately the "Palumboism" moniker is what many remember when his name comes up due to the latter stages of his competitive career which is unfair.