IGF-1...premixed or dry

MightyJohn · Jan 21, 2005

Experianced IGF-1 users please tell Me which is better the "dry"IGF-1(such as Gensci) or the "premixed" types....b/c I always though U want the product dry until today someone who has used it told ME differently, experianced user imput please...?

xcelbeyond · Jan 21, 2005

I'm no expert on this but don't you need to keep reconstituted IGF-1 refrigerated? If that's the case, I would stay away from the premixed stuff.

Also been told this stuff is extremely fragile. When mixing water into vial, you must let it run down the side in "droplets" (do "spray" it in). And - you're not supppose to shake it either to mix or afterwards. Another reason to avoid premixed.

rAJJIN · Jan 21, 2005

I agree

Get the Lypholized (sp) the freeze dried powder.
It would be VERY hard for 'me' to trust any premixed solutions.

Tapout1 · Jan 21, 2005

why would it be hard to trust, if you read the new research IGF is stable at room temp if reconstituted in BA with HCL. plus Gensci is not a autherized retailer of IGF. the only one right now is gropep. So I wouldnt trust them at all.

rAJJIN · Jan 21, 2005

well

It all comes from gropep, they have the patent on it.
Why but it mixed? Is it that hard to mix it yourself?

Im just saying Id prefer to buy it in the powder form like hcg and hgh..
Do you buy them premixed?

Homer · Jan 21, 2005

It would almost have to be premixed. Average dose is 40-60mcg so you would order what, three or four mg at once? That's a really SMALL amount of powder to ship in a bag.

Tapout1 · Jan 21, 2005

Hey rajjin do they openly say that its from gropep. because i have seen some over sea comps claiming to have IGf and HGH but they admit its not gropep.

I am not trying to start anything just making sure.

MightyJohn · Jan 21, 2005

....?

I'm comparing Gensci vs. a premixed solution....

rAJJIN · Jan 21, 2005

Homer said:
It would almost have to be premixed. Average dose is 40-60mcg so you would order what, three or four mg at once? That's a really SMALL amount of powder to ship in a bag.

It comes in 1mg kits.
10 vials with 100mcg in each. 1000 mcg= 1mg

solvent comes in seperate vials.

rAJJIN · Jan 21, 2005

Tapout1 said:
Hey rajjin do they openly say that its from gropep. because i have seen some over sea comps claiming to have IGf and HGH but they admit its not gropep.

I am not trying to start anything just making sure.

From my understanding Gropep has The International patent on it.
I dont know of any other companies that could possably have a legit
Igf-lr3 (or Igf for that matter) unless it originaly came from Gropep.

The reason youll see a lot of Premixes is theyll buy in bulk, 5mg+ at a time.
ALSO, (again imo) it would also be a LOT easier to underdose or Fake
it in the premixed.

Tap-out
No problem at all, thats why were here to discuss and learn things..
Im No expert at all and still know very little about it compared to some.

dragonfire101 · Jan 21, 2005

if you read the new research IGF is stable at room temp if reconstituted in BA with HCL

Its stable in BA,but degrades alot faster in it. Something lik 30 days. So how do you know if the premixed stuff wasnt sitting at your sources house for 30 days alraedy.

Get the Lypholized freeze dried powder and mix it when your ready to use it. It comes in in a vile at 1mg, accept gensci thats has a 10 vile kit like stated above.

Tapout1 · Jan 22, 2005

BA WITH HCL makes it stable.

dragonfire101 · Jan 23, 2005

Well i would sill get the powder. It still starts to degrade once mixed, regardless what its mixed with. Yes its stable ,but will start to degrade. If you can get BA with HCL seperate why not do so and mix when ready to use. I guess if you dont have that option your stuck with whatever you can get. Personally, i wouldnt trust any igf-1 premixed. Thats just me though.

MightyJohn · Jan 23, 2005

HCL...?

HCL...?where can that B found, would "regular" chemical suppliers carry this..?

Tapout1 · Jan 23, 2005

Some research comps carry it.

xcelbeyond · Jan 23, 2005

I'm still under the impression that IGF-1 LR3 is very fragile and should only be mixed with the water it comes with (regardless of what it is or isn't). Why risk ruining it's effectiveness if not most or all it's potency by using "something else" to mix it?

I didn't make this up - just read about proper reconstitution and storage.

Flexfactor · Jan 23, 2005

I only use the reconstituted Lr IGF-1 from Gropep, I know where it comes from and it is very effective. If you are getting the powder form from Gropep you are paying allot of extra money for it. The reconstituted IGF is very stable the old school IGF was very unstable and not a very wise choice. Now days it is the best way to go because it is more stable than the powder forms. Powder IGF is very heat and light sensitive!