Ignorant HRT question...

[shawnkarbabacz]

I know alot of guys that have been running gear a while are on HRT, which as i understand is just enough to keep test levels normal, maybe like 150-250 a week?

Anyway, my question is how do you do HRT AND aas? If you go in to the doctors for blood tests and test level checks frequently, what does the doc say when your test is off the charts? Do they actually prescribe high doses of test knowing what youre using it for? Ive heard some even do D-BOL? But then ive read threads about what to say to your doc when you are on HRT.

Its purely curiosity. I just dont know how far doc/patient confidentiality goes. Im sure its different with everybody, i was just wondering how it all works.

 

[maldorf]

I know alot of guys that have been running gear a while are on HRT, which as i understand is just enough to keep test levels normal, maybe like 150-250 a week?

Anyway, my question is how do you do HRT AND aas? If you go in to the doctors for blood tests and test level checks frequently, what does the doc say when your test is off the charts? Do they actually prescribe high doses of test knowing what youre using it for? Ive heard some even do D-BOL? But then ive read threads about what to say to your doc when you are on HRT.

Its purely curiosity. I just dont know how far doc/patient confidentiality goes. Im sure its different with everybody, i was just wondering how it all works.

If youre going to go on HRT you will have to suffer low test levels for a period of time before they will prescribe you any test, at least the good honest docs. Once youre on they will run blood levels on you about once every 3 months at first. maybe even a bit more often to check and see what your test level is and adjust the dosage accordingly. So the patient will need to not cycle any AAS during that period. Once you enter the maintenance level., where your test levels are in the right range and consistent, they only run a test level maybe every 6 months. So you would then need to plan your cycles around when the test is run. I think it would be rather difficult.
I am personally on HRT but dont use AAS anymore since I had a heart attack back in the summer of 08.
Its possible if you found the right doctor that they would still prescribe you HRT knowing you use, but I dont know how easy finding a doc like that would be.

 

[shawnkarbabacz]

Thats exactly what i figured the situation would be. I was just wondering if that was accurate. Thanks

 

[maldorf]

Thats exactly what i figured the situation would be. I was just wondering if that was accurate. Thanks

I dont think any doc would prescribe more than is needed to get your blood level in the 800-1000 range. Usually that somewhere between 100-200 mg/wk.
Most docs would probably shy away from even prescribing HRT doses to someone that uses steriods because of the liability they expose themselves to.

 

[kid1dakota]

I can only speak of my own experience with about three endos and I DO qualify for HRT.
Normally start you out with gel and get bloodwork.
Increase gel and get bloodwork.
After gel fails to raise to mid to upper range levels start 100 per wk cypionate and get bloodwork.Adjust dose from there.
I have never been put on a A.E. along with it but some have.

As someone said you need to get HRT stabilized before adding any SUPPLEMENTS to regemine.
I have heard of them discontinuing HRT if they think you are doing questionable things aside.It is a class 3 substance in U.S so they dont mess around,well legit specialists don't anyway.

 

[gelatine]

I'm so glad I didn't have to deal with the nightmare docs tossing out gels and in-office injections and many additional months of low test while they verified my condition. It makes me mad just thinking about wasting all that time and money fighting against stupidity.

I pay a lot more in a private clinic, but it's worth it for the no questions asked appropriate therapy with ancillaries (AI, HCG). I get a little box every couple of months and that's the end of it, at least until I get the bill

If you're looking at HRT, be prepared for a lot of doctor shopping unless you get lucky. Most doctors are completely in the dark about the practicalities involved in this area, even trained endocrinologists!

 

[maldorf]

I'm so glad I didn't have to deal with the nightmare docs tossing out gels and in-office injections and many additional months of low test while they verified my condition. It makes me mad just thinking about wasting all that time and money fighting against stupidity.

I pay a lot more in a private clinic, but it's worth it for the no questions asked appropriate therapy with ancillaries (AI, HCG). I get a little box every couple of months and that's the end of it, at least until I get the bill

If you're looking at HRT, be prepared for a lot of doctor shopping unless you get lucky. Most doctors are completely in the dark about the practicalities involved in this area, even trained endocrinologists!

My endo was great, excpet for putting me through a waiting period of about 7 months trying to get my natural test back. Looking back though, I respect her a lot for doing that since it would have been much healthier for me if I could have avoided taking test. She asked me what I wanted to be put on and I said test cyp by IM injection, and she never once fought it or reallly pushed the stupid creams. She respected my experience and I think knew that the injections are much more effective. there is no use in using HCG if youre taking exogenous test. Really the only reason would by psychological because some guys are self consicous of having small balls.

 

[e6er]

I know alot of guys that have been running gear a while are on HRT, which as i understand is just enough to keep test levels normal, maybe like 150-250 a week?

Anyway, my question is how do you do HRT AND aas? If you go in to the doctors for blood tests and test level checks frequently, what does the doc say when your test is off the charts? Do they actually prescribe high doses of test knowing what youre using it for? Ive heard some even do D-BOL? But then ive read threads about what to say to your doc when you are on HRT.

Its purely curiosity. I just dont know how far doc/patient confidentiality goes. Im sure its different with everybody, i was just wondering how it all works.

I don't, I quit using AS recreationally and realize it screwed me up to the point where I have to rely on the stuff for HRT. It's not fun having to take something the rest of your life. Besides if my Doc catches me abusing it he's going to drop me and I will have it in my health file. Not worth it to me personally.

If anything my doc prescribes a little over a half CC a week in two doses, I take a full CC each week so I am a little above what I am supposed to be.