seriously, u think hgh is the only thing to change in the sport?, ur seriously mistaken, Slin, thyroid meds, etc, roids like tren were all after arnoold. plus nutritoin has changed greatly and so has training. but my point was aimed in a sense toward the arnold phsyiguw or physiques of the seventies. u dont need hgh to get that look, we have it easier then they did back then with more knowledge and more available gear and boards like this.