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Its time to wake up America....

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I watch the news quite a bit, and say on top of current events as well as I can. I am currently over here in Iraq and so I have a front row seat to what is really happening in the war effort. The things that I see on the television make me absolutally sick to my stomach. I cannot believe how soft our country has became. It seems to me as though the faggot liberal motherfuckers have forgotten that we are at war. People bitch about every little thing. It infuriates me when I see Americans up in arms over the treatment of evil terrorist motherfuckers that we have captured on the battlefields of Afghan and Iraq. I cant believe that it is even a topic of discussion whether or not they are being treated respectfully. Wake the fuck up people. These are the same motherfuckers that will cut your head off with a dull knife and post in on the net. And that is long after you have been tortured extensively. Our enemies not play by the rules. They dont give to shits about the Geneva convention. They are fucking worthless monkeys worthy of the most terrible torture that we can come up with. They dont fear capture because they are going to get fed 3 square meals a day and recieve medical treatment and live a reletively painless life. The liberals want us to believe that we have to hold ourselves to a higher moral standard. This is absolute bullshit. Since the dawn of time there has been a saying floating around that states "war is hell." This is because during a time of war men have to do things that go above and beyond what most people consider acceptable. If the enemy doesnt fear you then it is hard to secure a victory in battle. We have to get back to the roots of combat. Fuck the geneva convention. Bring back napalm, bring back flame throwers, reinstate wide spread blanket bombing. We are so conserned about collateral damage nowadays that the enemy can strike and then just blend back in, sheltered in mosques ans other safe zones because they now we are not likely to destroy these "religious sites." Fuck that. If we are to win the war on terror, we have to break the spirit of the enemy to fight. We have the capability. We have the weapons, and manpower to level anyone in our path if the politicians would just let our generals fight the fucking war. If an IED blows up one of our military vehicles, then we should send in a massive airstrike and wipe out and entire grid square. They do again and we take another grid square off the map. The Japs we ready to fight a massive battle to the last man during WW2 until we vaporized 2 cities in a flash and brought them to there fucking kness. We need to quit whining about collateral damage and what the world thinks and start bringing the fucking pain on a level never seen before. Bring them to their knees. Hit them hard, and keep hitting until they beg just to be allowed to survive. Then after we have broke there will to fight through sheer overwhelming violence, death, and destruction. We come in and rebuild just like in Germany and Japan. If we let the liberal bitches take control and cause us to cut and run now, then America will be doomed. This war is more than just Iraq. This is war against radical islam. If we run, they win. Then all the sudden our economy will suffer massive blows. Trading partners overseas will be threatened by muslims that if they trade with us then the will fuck them up. And the rest of the world will comply because our military is tha baddest fucking ass kickers in the world and if we get chased out of iraq by these monkeys then there is no way a pussy country like france would trade with us under fear of islamic assault. Spain is already waving the "we are a bunch of punk bitches flag" since they cut and run in rsponse to muslim terrorists demands. We have to see the war to the end. No matter how long it takes, no matter how costly. We need to up the troop level in theather, increase combat operations, and start killing these motherfuckers wholesale. People bitch about the fact that we have lost several thousand troops. THIS IS WAR AND MEN DIE DURING WAR. I have had several friends die fighting this war and I may die any day myself. My heart goes out to the familys of my fallen comrades. But in the big picture of combat a few thousand deaths over several years is nothing compared to the amount of men killed in one day during the battle of Iwo Jima. This is war, we need to wake the fuck up. Quit bitching about the human rights of our enemys and instead focus on the most ruthless and effective manner of killing these fucks and breaking there will to fight. That is all I have to say about that. Oh yeah and fuck North Korea. WWIII is on baby. It is time to show the world just what the gratest nation in the world is capable of. Diplomacy is over, its time to kill em all, smash their infastructure, and burn their county to the ground.
 
I agree with alot of what you are saying except blanket bombing. Yeah bomb the grid if they ground troops call in for air support but not just random. Then we will create another generation of radical muslims ragheads etc. Trust no one man woman child phuck the terrorist prisoneers if its you or them then they die easy decision who cares what someone here thinks about that decision do what you have to do to come home. Good luck. MM
 
Stay strong over there brother. I appreciate everything your doing for us. I will say a prayer for you. Be safe.
 
I hear ya, Warlord. We pretty much have two options. The first is to pull out completely and see what happens. I think it would be bad news for America to do that. Giving the terrorists a chance to rebuild and reorganize with no interference would lead to massive attacks on the U.S. The second option is to do as you are saying. This shit will drag on forever the way we are doing it. We are trying to take people out and keep them safe at the same time. It's ridiculous. Of course, if we do get too out of hand and just start killing everyone who opposes us, who knows who we might piss off then. It wouldn't take a whole lot for China to step in and if China and the U.S. go at it, the world is pretty much fucked. It's a tough situation. We're in a mess.
 
bring the pain

The biggest mistake is letting the "MEDIA" in a war theatre. They are pussies, minus a FEW hard hitters that are in support of this war.
They blow everything out of proportion, and make the US Military look like the savages over here. We have a job to do and innocent people do die when pussy insurgents hide behind the non-combatant locals.
Then the Marines and other soldiers are on trial facing jail time because a few people died in a fire fight, WHAT THE FUCK!!! How about some of you fucking pussies sitting at your homes in your false security bubbles in the US come over here and experience war first hand then rethink what you say and reconsider putting our service members in jail for doing there jobs and saving our buddies lives . It is not easy over here and trying to win hearts and minds should be done after the enemy is decimated, NOT during combat operations. You liberals make the US troops sick, you have no frame of reference accept what you see from the media so shut the fuck up, stop interfering and let us MEN do our jobs!! That job is bringing the PAIN!!!!!!!!!
 
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I aggreee that blanket bombing is an extreme measure. The reason that I support it is as follows. The men we are fighting rely heavily on instilling fear in the regulat innocent populace that is indifferent to what is going on. They harbor the terrorist because if they dont then the terrorist will execute them and there families. Some of the tings that I have seen over here is absolutally inhuman. It has unfortunatally permanatly altered my perception of the islamic religion. The secretarian violence here is not unlike the machete murdering sprees that plagued rawanda years ago, except these assholes are using explosives and automatic weapons. They target innocents shopping, worshiping, simply going to work. Since most of these "innocents" choose to harbor the terrorists to save there own skin, as anyone in there situation probably would, the only way we can put an end to it is to hit them hard where is hurts. It is awefull, inhuman, and a terreible act. But as I said before war is hell. Once the general populace gets the picture that they have two choices:

1)harbor the enemy, which facilitates attacks on US forces.

or

2)Rise up and fight the enemy, drive them out, isolate them and deny then safe haven.

If they chose #1, then we have to get mid-evil on there ass and crush large quantities of there population. As long as they continue to harber, we continue to smash and burn. Eventually the terror that we cause from overwhelming destruction will cause them to see the light. Quit harboring the enemy or they all will die.

If they choose to stand up for them selves and take the fight to the enemy, sure some will die, but THIS IS WAR. But eventually like a snowball rolling down a hill the resistance will grow, there quality of life will increase, and they will retake there own country and show the radicals that they want to live in peace, to pursue normal lives, and so they will not tolerate anyone who stands in the way of that.

Unfortunatally the only way to get them to reach this descision is to show them through overwhelming destruction what is going to happen if they dont start fighting the enemy themselves. This will wake them up, as all humans have the will to do what has to be done to survive, it is jsut a matter of making them find that killer instinct inside of them. And since these are a bunch of monkeys, extreme measures is the only way to make them see the light.
 
THATS HOW YOU FEEL

WE ARE NO BETTER THAN THE TERRORISTS. WE PULL PEOPLE FROM THEIR HOUSE AND SHOOT THEM AND THROW THEM IN A HOLE. IF YOU THINK FOR ONE SECOND THAT WE ARE ANY DIFFERENT THAN YOU ARE IGNORANT. WE ARE IN THEIR COUNTRY, FOR WHAT????????? WHY AR WE THERE????? TO FIGHT TERROR??? ARE YOU SERIOUS??? IF THEY CAME HERE WOULD YOU CUT THEIR HEADFS OFF? FROM YOUR TONE I AM SURE YOU WOULD. PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY THEY LIVE IN. THIS COUNTRY IS THROWING US IN JAIL FOR STEROIDS???? STEROIDS???? THIS COUNTRY???? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? FIGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY???? FUCK THAT. MY DAD FOUGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY AND SO DID MY UNCLES. THEY FOUGHT FOR FREDOM OR SO THEY THOUGHT. THIS COUNTRY THREW ME IN PRISON FOR STEROIDS, SO I AM NOT A HAPPY CAMPER.
 
with all due respect, you only know your (the american) side of the story. the "war on terror" is just a joke. this "war on terror" just created more terrorist groups and is giving everyone (including muslims!!) a hard time. when you say muslim rag heads, it's an insult to me and all my people. we muslims (true muslims, and representing the majority of muslims) do not consider those murdering, cold hearted, poor excuses for human beings to be muslims. But the media you complain about is somehow showing that terrorism is what islam is about. The iraqi people hate the situation they're in more than anyone else, and they don't approve of what is happening, yet when you hear that "an american soldier was shot today" in the news, you hear people whispering in the background saying "oh yeah, and 70 iraqi civilians who had nothing to do with this war were also killed, but who gives a shit"...
I really admire that you're serving your country by fighting an endless and pointless war like this, but please, look at this issue from different points of view. were there any weapons of mass destruction found? NO! and somehow people forget that this is what started the war on iraq. and now, north korea has a nuclear weapon and everyone knows it... what is the US doing about it? think about why they aren't rushing to "fight terror" in north korea... and how the decision to bomb the shit out of iraq happened overnight.
again, i'm not trying to offend anyone, but please, don't insult other people unless you know what they're really going through, not what "the media" says.
 
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Before I respond to your statements, Im going to say that I have a deep respect for you as a bodybuilder and an expert in all aspects of the sport.


That being said, I think that your comments are complete and utter garbage. However that is the great thing about America, we dont have to aggree on these types of things. As an american you are able to put out whatever ridiculous crap that you can think of. And many men have died so that me and you can debate these very issues today without fear of prosecution. But think about this.... What if we were is a country were you were unable to even go to the shopping mall without fear of being killed simply because of your religeous views. Or because you happened to be standing in the wrong place when a suicide bomber decided to blow himself up for some exteme idealogoly. Do you want that kind of thing to go on in America. I certainly dont.

Phil, as an american you are intitled to your opinion no matter how off base and unqualified it may be. It is my opinion though that unless you have actually been on the ground over here in Iraq, or in Afghanistan and witnessed things for yourself through your own eyes, instead of relying on the local news which is always warped into the viewpoint of particular network in question, you just are not able to make a qualified assessment of the situation on the ground. Im sorry if this offends you, but the bottom line is your opinion carries absolutally no weight due to the fact that you simply dont know all the facts.

You know though, being a well known bodybuilder you could grab your nuts and volunteer to fly over to iraq to provide a special visit to the troops to raise morale, as im sure many of these men over here are major fans and would love to see you do a guest posing routine in baghdad. Then after you have came overhere, saw the country through your own eyes, then you will be qualified to have a opinion that matters. Contact the US Army MWR for info if you feel so compelled to support the troops that are allowing you to be able to drive back and forth to the gym eveyday without having to worry about being blown up by an IED, or kidnapped and beheaded.
 
buselmo said:
with all due respect, you only know your (the american) side of the story. the "war on terror" is just a joke. this "war on terror" just created more terrorist groups and is giving everyone (including muslims!!) a hard time. when you say muslim rag heads, it's an insult to me and all my people. we muslims (true muslims, and representing the majority of muslims) do not consider those murdering, cold hearted, poor excuses for human beings to be muslims. But the media you complain about is somehow showing that terrorism is what islam is about. The iraqi people hate the situation they're in more than anyone else, and they don't approve of what is happening, yet when you hear that "an american soldier was shot today" in the news, you hear people whispering in the background saying "oh yeah, and 70 iraqi civilians who had nothing to do with this war were also killed, but who gives a shit"...
I really admire that you're serving your country by fighting an endless and pointless war like this, but please, look at this issue from different points of view. were there any weapons of mass destruction found? NO! and somehow people forget that this is what started the war on iraq. and now, north korea has a nuclear weapon and everyone knows it... what is the US doing about it? think about why they aren't rushing to "fight terror" in north korea... and how the decision to bomb the shit out of iraq happened overnight.
again, i'm not trying to offend anyone, but please, don't insult other people unless you know what they're really going through, not what "the media" says.
I agree that muslim people are peaceful. But however the bad apples are giving the religion a bad name. The radicals use a false interperation of the Quran, thus bringing the idiot media a false stereotype of the religion.
How can you say there are not WMD's, thats what Sadam is on trial for. The Kurds in the north are testifying on this matter, Sadam used them on his own people, Iranians and had them shipped away to who knows where. The military has found factories with all materials and trace samples that comfirm in fact WMD's were being produced. Just another antiwar media ploy to make the US look like bullies. Yes the local Iraqis are in a bad situation here and are doing there best to step up to the plate, but the insurgents are still fighting dirty and know we won't use extreme measures to eliminate them. This is why we have to take the gloves of and bring the PAIN to these fuckheads.
 
buselmo said:
with all due respect, you only know your (the american) side of the story. the "war on terror" is just a joke. this "war on terror" just created more terrorist groups and is giving everyone (including muslims!!) a hard time. when you say muslim rag heads, it's an insult to me and all my people. we muslims (true muslims, and representing the majority of muslims) do not consider those murdering, cold hearted, poor excuses for human beings to be muslims. But the media you complain about is somehow showing that terrorism is what islam is about. The iraqi people hate the situation they're in more than anyone else, and they don't approve of what is happening, yet when you hear that "an american soldier was shot today" in the news, you hear people whispering in the background saying "oh yeah, and 70 iraqi civilians who had nothing to do with this war were also killed, but who gives a shit"...
I really admire that you're serving your country by fighting an endless and pointless war like this, but please, look at this issue from different points of view. were there any weapons of mass destruction found? NO! and somehow people forget that this is what started the war on iraq. and now, north korea has a nuclear weapon and everyone knows it... what is the US doing about it? think about why they aren't rushing to "fight terror" in north korea... and how the decision to bomb the shit out of iraq happened overnight.
again, i'm not trying to offend anyone, but please, don't insult other people unless you know what they're really going through, not what "the media" says.


Check it out cheif. I dont get my info from the media, I get it from my personal experiences on the ground. I have served multiple tours in both afghanistan and Iraq. I have seen both good and bad muslims. The problem is this: The moderate muslims do not do enough to prevent the radical fundamentalists from raising hell around the world. Why do moderates always state that islam is a religeon of peace, and then riot when a fucking cartoon is posted about mohammed in some insignificant newspaper. Why do supposedly peacefull muslims burn churches and attack christians when the pope quotes some ancient text. Explain that one to me. I am open to a healthy debate on the matter. Oh yeah, and how come 99% of the acts of terrorism in the last 30 years have been conducted by fighting age muslim men. I suppose you are against profiling too. think about your answers before you post. If you want my opinion you got it. The islamic religion is a breeding ground for terrorism, and if I had it my way fighting age muslim men would be watched, profiled, and screened in every possible manner. If we were at war with fighting age hindu men then I would reccommend the same thing for them.
 
i have two words about our country as a whole right now.. ill take it a couple steps further and sum up the whole world in two words...

FUCKING MESS.....

nuff said..

btw bro, i very much appreciate your service.. me and my gal are trying to get setup with the whole adopt a soldier deal.. we have sent plenty of stuff over, but i would really like to help out a specific soldier or two who is in need and be able to provide them with what the need.

thanks again,
 
Believe me, I respect you also

I could still go to the gym every day and eat every day if our guys did not go to Iraq. I think this war is bullshit and I am against it.
 
Good Idea

PHIL HERNON said:
I could still go to the gym every day and eat every day if our guys did not go to Iraq. I think this war is bullshit and I am against it.
Lets pull the troops out and let these radicals get stronger train harder and plan more extensive widescale attacks on the US, you are a genious! Thank GOD your not in charge.
Oh did I mention your a fucking idiot.
 
Hahahahhaha

FALSE-IDOL said:
Lets pull the troops out and let these radicals get stronger train harder and plan more extensive widescale attacks on the US, you are a genious! Thank GOD your not in charge.
Oh did I mention your a fucking idiot.

You are loney tunes dude!!! haahhahhh You should have your own cartoon series..............False Idol and the faggot that hides behind the name.
 
I have many friends that were there

WARLORD_123 said:
Before I respond to your statements, Im going to say that I have a deep respect for you as a bodybuilder and an expert in all aspects of the sport.


That being said, I think that your comments are complete and utter garbage. However that is the great thing about America, we dont have to aggree on these types of things. As an american you are able to put out whatever ridiculous crap that you can think of. And many men have died so that me and you can debate these very issues today without fear of prosecution. But think about this.... What if we were is a country were you were unable to even go to the shopping mall without fear of being killed simply because of your religeous views. Or because you happened to be standing in the wrong place when a suicide bomber decided to blow himself up for some exteme idealogoly. Do you want that kind of thing to go on in America. I certainly dont.

Phil, as an american you are intitled to your opinion no matter how off base and unqualified it may be. It is my opinion though that unless you have actually been on the ground over here in Iraq, or in Afghanistan and witnessed things for yourself through your own eyes, instead of relying on the local news which is always warped into the viewpoint of particular network in question, you just are not able to make a qualified assessment of the situation on the ground. Im sorry if this offends you, but the bottom line is your opinion carries absolutally no weight due to the fact that you simply dont know all the facts.

You know though, being a well known bodybuilder you could grab your nuts and volunteer to fly over to iraq to provide a special visit to the troops to raise morale, as im sure many of these men over here are major fans and would love to see you do a guest posing routine in baghdad. Then after you have came overhere, saw the country through your own eyes, then you will be qualified to have a opinion that matters. Contact the US Army MWR for info if you feel so compelled to support the troops that are allowing you to be able to drive back and forth to the gym eveyday without having to worry about being blown up by an IED, or kidnapped and beheaded.

Many never saw combat, but trained all day in gyms better than they have here. Let me ask you, why all the gyms over there?? You guys have all that time to train??? Are steroids allowed there? Do you guys take them there? You guys flew in equipment to work out on?? shoot, sign me up!!!
 
PHIL HERNON said:
Many never saw combat, but trained all day in gyms better than they have here. Let me ask you, why all the gyms over there?? You guys have all that time to train??? Are steroids allowed there? Do you guys take them there? You guys flew in equipment to work out on?? shoot, sign me up!!!
Faggot huh? I call you a pussy and you get offended and call me a fag. I just call it how I see it, YOU ARE A PUSSY~!!
Why don't you do just that, grab your balls sign up, come over here and say that to my face. Fucking liberal ANTIWAR, PUSSY, COWARD.
 
PHIL HERNON said:
I could still go to the gym every day and eat every day if our guys did not go to Iraq. I think this war is bullshit and I am against it.

I understand your stance on the war, as it is the opinion of many americans for a variety of different reasons. The issue of whether or not the decision to go to war was legitimate or not is no longer relevant as we are already committed. And since we have already committed our fighting men to battle, we have to see it through reguardless of whether or not the invasion was justified. That is a completely seperate issue that will be debated till the end of time. What we as a nation have to realize is what is at stake now that we have committed to battle. If we were to pull out our troops now, it would be looked at by the muslim world as a victory against the last great superpower in the world. And if America, home to the finest fighting force on the planet, is seen by the rest of the world as unable to quelm this insurgency then who is. What will prevent radical muslims from threatening other nations with terrorist attacks if they dont bend to there will. Like I stated before, what if Radical fundamental islamic groups demand that countries stop trading with the US, under threat of assault. These countries would look back at us cuting and running form Iraq and think "if the mighty american military cant fight these terrorist off, then how could we." Dont let moderate muslims fool you into thinking that islam is a religeon of peace. If we give these radicals an inch they will try and take a mile. Look at the isreal/palistinean nightmare. Isreal pulls out and grants them there own area and instead of accepting peace they start rocketing civilain targets because they dont want just a little bit, they want it all. This is the problem. This will plague our world till the end of time. I dont have the answer, I just know that history has shown that continuously appeasing radicals doesnt work since they are never satisfied (i.e. Hitler and Nazi Germany). This will be a vey interesting next couple of years, hopefully one day we will all be able to live together in peace but until that time we must maintain the policy:
IF YOU WANT PEACE, PREPARE FOR WAR
 
FALSE-IDOL said:
Faggot huh? I call you a pussy and you get offended and call me a fag. I just call it how I see it, YOU ARE A PUSSY~!!
Why don't you do just that, grab your balls sign up, come over here and say that to my face. Fucking liberal ANTIWAR, PUSSY, COWARD.
You joined this board a month ago and have made 8 posts, 5 of which are on this thread.

Post your real name and picture tough guy. We all know who Phil is, but you are a nobody.
 
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