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[langtitle=es]Coming off[/langtitle]

lipid

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Hi Guys...

Will get straight to it...

Currently 24 years old, been blast cruising for 4 years, i did use HCG throughout but not entirely of time and ive also came off entirely 2x i believe within that timeframe so its not continuous...due to just a change of heart figured id come off and stay off for good before its too late... given my age of 24 do i have a good chance? Never used deca just NPP twice.

Last shot of 100mg test was 4 weeks ago...been on 200mg test since jan 2018, last blast was end of 2017.

Plan..
HCG 1 - 8 500IU Tues/Thurs/Sat
Clomid 8 - 12 50/50/25/25
Nolva 8 - 12 20/20/20/20

What are my chances on recovery?

Took my first shot of HCG today 500iu
Currently no libido issues 4 weeks since last 100mg shot...which is good news...mentally im in the shitter though.
 
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Won't know until you stay off and run bloodwork.

Everyone responds differently, some guys can have a bulletproof HPA axis (pretty rare), and some are screwed after the first cycle.

You did start younger when your endocrine system was still developing so you might never recover.

We play the game and we pay the price [emoji6]

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You will most likely be fine if you give it enough time. Be patient its a process
 

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I used for about 10 years but most of the time I would get off using PCT and be clean for 8 weeks or more. The last 2 years or so I did cruise and never got off.

After my heart attack I got off for good and my level never recovered, even after being off for about 11 months or so. My LH levels when tested by my endo would come back "below measurable levels" most of the time. My test level would come back at about 35 or so. It was terrible. That is my experience. I went on TRT and haven't worried about it again. I take 100 mg/wk.

I think you need to try it and suffer for awhile. I would go at least 1 year before giving up. Hopefully you will recover. As others have said, everybody is different and there really is no way to tell how you will do. You just have to do it. I do think you are much better off going natural if you can rather than doing TRT. TRT isn't something you should have to worry about until you get much much older. I got off when I was 38 years old. You are a lot younger, maybe you will bounce back better.

I would have blood tests run every couple of months to monitor your values.
 
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You're 26 bro...I think you'll recover fine if you are patient.

The mental stuff is the hardest you just have to understand it is what it is and ur gona feel shit for a fairly long time. But things will get better.

Keep training hard, eating right and get some sun.

Give it time.
 

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You're 26 bro...I think you'll recover fine if you are patient.

The mental stuff is the hardest you just have to understand it is what it is and ur gona feel shit for a fairly long time. But things will get better.

Keep training hard, eating right and get some sun.

Give it time.

Im currently 24 man and yes this comment makes me more positive on the outlook. currently feeling depressed
 

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Im currently 24 man and yes this comment makes me more positive on the outlook. currently feeling depressed

Just hang in there. Don't keep using HCG and nolvadex etc because in my opinion that is just going to slow down your recovery. I think that anything that goes into your body and affects your own natural hormones is going to slow things down. Those drugs though will make it feel easier to do, make you feel better.
 

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it's time for some straight dick bro..




the truth is... as thethinker said, there's no way to know until you get blood work



the HPTA is different for everyone.. some people don't recover after 1 short cycle.



my natural test before i ever used gear was like 500ng/dl


I don't see the point in ever coming off... why not just drop to TRT?
 

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it's time for some straight dick bro..




the truth is... as thethinker said, there's no way to know until you get blood work



the HPTA is different for everyone.. some people don't recover after 1 short cycle.



my natural test before i ever used gear was like 500ng/dl


I don't see the point in ever coming off... why not just drop to TRT?
I've got my wife pregnant 2x now on cycle, on tren. I never come off either, only TRT bridges. Oh and they're boys. Spartan boys.

Apha seed finds a way brozos. Life finds a way - jurassic park style.

If one cycle shuts your little baby balls down, your genes weren't meant to be in this gene pool. Perform seppuku with dignity and shuffle off this rock. You're crowding humanity with DNA waste material.

/troll
 
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I've got my wife pregnant 2x now on cycle, on tren. I never come off either, only TRT bridges. Oh and they're boys. Spartan boys.

Apha seed finds a way brozos. Life finds a way - jurassic park style.

If one cycle shuts your little baby balls down, your genes weren't meant to be in this gene pool. Perform seppuku with dignity and shuffle off this rock. You're crowding humanity with DNA waste material.

/troll




you can be shut down and still producing sufficient jizz bro just sayin
 

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you can be shut down and still producing sufficient jizz bro just sayin
Unbreakable...

Tbh, I'm just drunk on a layover at airport in Detroit. Good news is I fucked auto owners ins co up today in depositions... I'm camped out at Ruby Tuesdays pounding $14 Margaritas like a hobo.

But ya, I can't seem to inhibit spermogenesis no matter what I do. It's the Spartan seed...
 
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Unbreakable...

Tbh, I'm just drunk on a layover at airport in Detroit. Good news is I fucked auto owners ins co up today in depositions... I'm camped out at Ruby Tuesdays pounding $14 Margaritas like a hobo.

But ya, I can't seem to inhibit spermogenesis no matter what I do. It's the Spartan seed...

I conceived two girls while on decent dose cycles that included tren, but when I finally got off and tried to recover my normal testosterone levels it never worked for me.
 

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I conceived two girls while on decent dose cycles that included tren, but when I finally got off and tried to recover my normal testosterone levels it never worked for me.
I'm TRT till death... At 67
 

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I've got my wife pregnant 2x now on cycle, on tren. I never come off either, only TRT bridges. Oh and they're boys. Spartan boys.

Apha seed finds a way brozos. Life finds a way - jurassic park style.

If one cycle shuts your little baby balls down, your genes weren't meant to be in this gene pool. Perform seppuku with dignity and shuffle off this rock. You're crowding humanity with DNA waste material.

/troll

hahaha
 

lipid

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thanks to the few who commented something that wasnt a troll
 
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I think you've got a fighting chance

I came off in a similar fashion. I was on trt doses from age 27-33. No history with nandrolones. You can see my "log" in the trt section. It really just echoes what everyone on this thread is recommending.

Many in our community said not to use any pct meds (including my doc). I ran HCG for a few weeks before dropping test then, low dose nolva for 6 weeks. until the common consensus from everyone was to drop them.

Levels returned to "normal range" after a number of months. It was hellish no lie. You kinda just gotta suffer through the first few weeks.

I think you'll have a good shot at recovery. I will say the first few weeks are going to suck. Balls.

Mindset is huge. You can get through it.

kratom, phenibut, and cialis got me through the really rough part. I hope that's helpful.
 
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What are my chances on recovery?

I was in almost your exact situation at your age. I was training for a competition and for about two years it was cycle, off for 8 weeks, cycle, etc etc.

A year or so later, I tested my test levels. They were normal. Everything still functioned fine too.

You'll be fine bud. Like Maldorf said, give it a year. You'll see.
 

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